Orion Pilot Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hi all, Just wanted to let everyone who might be interested, Alphasim have "part released" their C-17 project. By "part released" I mean they have released the finished exterior model package, with the cockpit (VC) to be released at a later date. Some might call me crazy - but I took the plunge and got it last night - and might I say - from my point of view - I quiet like this airplane. The sound set is awsome - well to my ears anyway!...and the flight model for both FSX and FS9 are quite good. This is a quick shot for the RAAF's 207 Aircraft - I think they still need to add the numbers on the nose.... But over all I am happy with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchegg Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I was tempted by this as well but paying for just an external model? No way. I want to see the VC first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I was tempted by this as well but paying for just an external model? No way. I want to see the VC first. Yep, x2. Sounds like a half arsed grab for cash. I'll wait and let them relieve me of my shekels when I see the 'finished' product thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petejohno Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I am still waiting for the VC for the DA FK100 promised a very long time ago. Be careful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchegg Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I was tempted by this as well but paying for just an external model? No way. I want to see the VC first. Yep, x2. Sounds like a half arsed grab for cash. I'll wait and let them relieve me of my shekels when I see the 'finished' product thanks. Yeah, Alphasim seem to be a group riddled with problems. Parting with cash for a promise to complete is a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 does it have an FMC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennyson Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I agree. I bought the Captain Sim 727 without a VC and when they later released it at $100, I was wondering would I have bought the exterior model, knowing that. The answer is NO. There are too many great Companies producing great aircraft to be sucked in by those that don't, IMHO, Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Emms Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Nice shot but its like buying a pair of arse less trousers and waiting for the patch but at the end of the day its your coin and if your happy mate thats all that matters. cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchegg Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 its like buying a pair of arse less trousers and waiting for the patch If it's not already that should be an internet meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Does it have an fmc or is it going to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Pilot Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Like I said, might have been a silly move buying it now - but I guess I will live and learn! I understand where people are coming from tho.... I am not sure if it will be equipped with a FMC, I guess that's what I will have to wait for! Thanks for all your comments - some of them make me laugh! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchegg Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 If the VC is up to the standards of the external model, I may well fork out myself as it looks like a cracking external model. Unfortunately Alphasim's VCs frequently disappoint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest victor Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 i too took the plunge my self and deeply regret it too keep things simple, i dont think no matter how good they make the vc after looking at the externals it will make bang for buck to me it looks like a fs9 port over by judging the exterior close up , default 747 sound and the lighting effects dont line up for starters and handles like a cessna 172 very very disappointed, they now have sunk to a all time low, i will never recommend this or alphasim to anyone please wait till this become freeware in a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 no cockpit and no FMC or FMGC or what ever the C17 uses is a disappointment. I sure wont be buying it untill I read a review on the fully finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Pilot Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 to me it looks like a fs9 port over by judging the exterior close up , default 747 sound and the lighting effects dont line up for starters and handles like a cessna 172 I am not sure I can agree with this - I know they have two models, one for FSX and one for FS9 - so I am sure it is not just a port over. I have both sims running, and they each look different, and the sound set I am sure is not default 747. Please correct me if I am wrong, but with the lighting effects in FSX, is there not limitations as where / what you can do with the lights on aircraft? Like I said I might be wrong! (it has happened before! ) I would also like to say, (with out blowing the horn for the company that designed it!)...I think that they do an alright job with their aircraft, and being a big military aircraft flier, sometimes my options are limited as to what and where I can get my aircraft from - so to say that they now have sunk to a all time low, i will never recommend this or alphasim to anyone I think is a bit harsh. But as I always say, I respect your opinion and derision, that's the beauty of our hobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Seems odd to release it this way .. but the VCs on their Rutan 61 Long-EZ and 39-C Turbo Mentor are bloody superb. (Those are non-military a/c though). If the same developers make the VC for the C-17 then it should be half decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest victor Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 orion, i stand corrected, the sound file isnt the 747, sorry i was looking at the sound file from another aircraft at the time as for the model, there are nicer fs9 models out there for half that price look at the end of the day, compared to more recent releases its a poor package, but im the stupid one thinking it was going to half alright after reading all the negative posts around the place on it, i thought i would give them the benefit of the doubt boy i was wrong, this is no way near the price range they are asking, im aware that im the only one to be at fault for this im just hoping no one makes the same mistake bit harsh , im sorry i think not, at the end of the day, there is a expected level of quality from a payware developer even more when the price is that high the earlier stuff is good, just the recent stuff since all the staff there are leaving in drove they have return to the older days over over priced freeware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Pilot Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Victor, I appreciate your comments....it is good to get another point of view John - I guess it is strange that they have only released half the product - and I guess I am the silly one flying around in an aircraft with no cockpit (brings a whole new meaning to glass cockpit hey! )......I am just a sucker I guess.....or an optimist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad_strebor Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I've never been big on tubeliners and the like, but from what I understand, the main drawcard to this genre of aircraft is the systems is it not? The idea of getting from one major airport to another using and many bells and whistles as possible to do it? Therefor, for Alphasim to release (and expect people to pay for) an aircraft of this genre with no cockpit and therefor no systems, would be akin to Orbx for example releasing a highly detailed airport with no runways. I'm sorry, but alphasim has never to this day done anything to encourage me to give them money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Spot on David, if you think about it... the J41 has so much in it and its worked out about the same price. The real C17 has a pretty advanced FMS and head up display. This thing is suppose to be able to find and land at remote forward airstrips that are little more than scratches in the earth. You can only assume that his one will have the same level of systems complexity. I hope for their sake this ends well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scharnowski Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I wouldn't buy have a plane. But the external looks good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Well contrary to popular opinion, I bought the C17 last night, missus had a small windfall and said "watcha want darl?" spent 20 minutes tossing up between the JS4100 vs the C17....and went with the C17 Well once all the hoo-haa at the shop had been done, I spent half an hour figuring out how to get another VC working until Alphasim release the other half of this aircraft, eventually I got the default 747 VC working My thoughts: Sound is really detailed and very realistic flight model is superb, the outside skin is simply stunning the animations are really well done Its like having a Twinotter with the horsepower of a 747 it lands on a dime and the climb rate is crazy I would highly recommend it, and if the VC is anything like the outside skin it will be one fantastic aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky76 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Could you imagine a PMDG C-17??? I know I know, They have already said it won't happen . Great shot though Orion Pilot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aussieman Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 UKMIL have released a freeware version of the C-17. And it has a VC and is of a better quality than the Alpha-Sim one. Cheers Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Hi Pat, yes I tried the UKMIL version when it was released the other day, however I'm going to have to disagree with you about it being better than the Alphasim version while it (UKMIL) is a very nice model, the VC is still rather rough for my taste, and the level of detail on the exterior of the Alphasim version is clearly superior (all I can compare with atm lol) If the VC on the Alphasim version turns out anything like the Sabre/blackhawk, I'll be happy Cheers Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Pilot Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 UKMIL have released a freeware version of the C-17. And it has a VC and is of a better quality than the Alpha-Sim one. Cheers Pat G'day Pat, I to have down loaded the UKMIL C-17 - and I have to agree with Meatycus - the Alphasim C-17 has far better detail on the external model. ( the UKMIL C-17 win hands down in the VC department though! ) Now I don't want to knock the UKMIL C-17 - the guys who have worked on it sure have put some time and effort into the project - and they need a pat on the back for their efforts, and with time, as with most aircraft, there will be improvements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plexi1 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I bought the C-17 the day it was released and I must say that I am quite happy with it (despite the missing VC) Textures are 2048 pixel big and therefore very detailed, soundset is from TSS (Turbine Sound Studios) and as someone said before, it is a true FSX model. Update was said to be released approx. in a month including VC and other things Flies great, looks great, sounds great Btw. a preview shot of the VC in early alphastadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Pilot Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 Now that what I am talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HercFan Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 That vc shot looks interesting. If memory serves me right, Ernie Alston is (or was?) developing the FMC for this beast. I personnaly can't wait for the final package to be released. I resisted the whole "buy the beta" concept, but man am I looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plexi1 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 just to bring this back to your minds regarding the VC development of the alphasim C-17 C-17 Globemaster III status report ! An interim version (v1.05) including the 2D panel suite (and hopefully some new texture sets) is due for release later this month, all being well. The VC work has repeatedly stalled due to lack of finance. General low sales and a poor return on the C-17 version 1.0 has left funds gravely depleted. Efforts had to be switched to some new FSX model packages for release through a 3rd party publisher in order to obtain the necessary funding for the expensive items needed to complete the C-17 cockpit. We apologise for the long wait and bad estimates. As a company we are not in good shape right now, so we ask for just a little more patience as we attempt to complete this project while we still can. The whole of April and May are set aside for non-stop C-17 work, no other projects are scheduled for that period, so the VC should be ready by the end of May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPA159 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Well of course the sales figures are low. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's stopped trusting in vague promises from developers. EG. I'm still irate with Digital Aviation for their Fokker VC embarrassment. I'm aware that Alphasim is not Digital Aviation, but I for one have learned my lesson. I won't go near it before the VC is complete, and I'm pretty damned sure the same goes for a lot of others. Once it's out, if it gets out, I'll be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrottleUp Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Wow at LAST a C-17 for FSX with a VC! I will be waiting eagerly for this! Thanks for the headsup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusJ Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Well of course the sales figures are low. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's stopped trusting in vague promises from developers. EG. I'm still irate with Digital Aviation for their Fokker VC embarrassment. I'm aware that Alphasim is not Digital Aviation, but I for one have learned my lesson. I won't go near it before the VC is complete, and I'm pretty damned sure the same goes for a lot of others. Once it's out, if it gets out, I'll be all over it. I still have hope for the DA Fokker VC. Mine's been parked since I moved to FSX and exclusive VC flying. Alexander Metzger, one of the Fokker developers, visits these forums. Perhaps he can give us a little bit of an update here? I really hope to be able to fly the Fokker by VC one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petejohno Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Wish I had your faith Jus. It's been a couple of years from memory and it seems to be out of DA's control. I, like many others, bought the product on the assumption - no I should say promise - of a VC. Shame, because I would really like to start flying the Fokker, but I only use aircraft with VC'S these days. Once burnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymar99 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Why is this type of marketing any different than A2A Simulations.. You buy the airplane (A2A Wings of Silver Piper Cub) at a reasonably high price then you have to buy the Accu-Sim addon to make it fly right (at the price of a some full addon planes)? Alphasim is just releasing the cub part a couple of months before the accusim part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Manhart Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Except its nothing like A2A... With A2A you buy a perfectly capable aircraft. Accu-Sim is enhanced engine characteristics, and in the case of the cub is better effects, engine characteristics and engine maintenance. Jusy my opinion though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plexi1 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 the first Version of the 2D panel is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Pilot Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 I just saw that it had been released! Pitty I am stuck at work - I will have to wait till I get home. Have you tried it out? What do you think? I am looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plexi1 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I like it, not all is clickable and I had a small problem starting engine #1 via the overhead panel but CTRL+E gets around this. I really like the look of it there are a few eyecandys the gauges do look as if they had some reflections in them, engine gauge on the right side can be switched to PFD, ND, Engines, Map and CFG and I hope they will finish the VC, if they can keep this quality for it than it will be really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Pilot Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 Awesome stuff - just downloaded them - so I am off to do a check ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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