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    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    14 hours ago, renault said:

    m just curious. It is surprising to me that lowering the shunt resistance from 5 to 3 will increase the power limit by such a large amount , so I feel I don't understand what is occurring.

    So, it works like that:

     

    Every card these days has a power limit of some sort, my has 480W out of factory, FE has 350W. Card measures how much power is drawn through current sensing resistors (shunts). Stock value is 5m ohm if You change it to lower value like 3m ohm, card "thinks" that less power is used so it draws more up to the BIOS limit. For that OC you should pick right card, not every one is capable of withstanding such mod, in 3090 series You have Strix and Kingpin which are top choice (3x 8 pin, no fuses) 

     

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    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    9 hours ago, renault said:

    Card will be modded, I will replace 5 mili Ohm shunts with 3 mili Ohm ones, I will rise power limit from 480W to ca. 850W, add some SP capacitors on the back.

     

    I'm just curious. It is surprising to me that lowering the shunt resistance from 5 to 3 will increase the power limit by such a large amount , so I feel I don't understand what is occurring.  . I can understand adding additional capacitors for noise filtering as that seems to have been an issue from launch. 

     

    Also does this mean that you will have a very advanced water cooling solution with this change - basically on a gpu more electricity = more performance, but more electricity also means much more heat to be dissipated. Its hard to understand how air cooling would be adequate.

     

    Thank you

    Pete

    I will answer You later how does it work, but for now let’s look at this monster vs evga 1080 FTW

     

    Ps. Regarding Your joke, You shortened this story so much it became imposible to enjoy it. Now that You told it as a whole it’s quite funny. In Poland getting 3090 isn’t that hard ca. 10 days waiting time, 3080 is impossible to get maybe in may/june.

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    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    14 minutes ago, renault said:

     

    Very nice sir!

     

    Just one question - did the armed guards for a year to protect it and you from the nefarious types who want a really superb gpu  cost extra or was it included in the price ? :lol::lol:

    Cheers

    Pete

    Or My english is bad or else because I cannot figure out what U are asking me :huh:


    Card will be modded, I will replace 5 mili Ohm shunts with 3 mili Ohm ones, I will rise power limit from 480W to ca. 850W, add some SP capacitors on the back.

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    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    3 hours ago, B12 said:

    Couple of more questions as the final build gets nearer.


    Also, if I cant locate the old original PSU box and that extra 4 pin cable is not in it ... well, it seems to me even PSU cables have modular commonility these days, should be able to buy one somewhere soon pretty quick for final build I have a feeling will be happening in next week or so :)

    Thanks.

     

    Don't worry about that, any extra 4 or even 8 pins over standard 8, they are there for those who OC with LN2 and other sub zero solutions. 8 pin is enough for like 300W and 5950X is a 105W even if you enable PBO it will hit ca. 150W.

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    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    2 hours ago, B12 said:

    Or this one, in all fairness to Asus, my main current Gaming rig with an overclocked Asus gaming board (was my FS PC) with my I7 8700K delidded etc has been running full pelt for 3 years or so at 5GHz, very very reliable board.
     

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-amd-am4-ddr4-x570-chipset-atx-motherboard-mb-6dv-as.html

     

    If I were in looks for new MB I would buy ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO

     

    spacing of pci Express slots with 3000 series cards is a challenge for those who have more than graphics card. I You have room in case consider AIO for your card if there is one.

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    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    5 hours ago, Orbx Flyer said:

    I'm right there with you...as I am thinking of doing exactly what you are...going back to AMD.  I have a 10 year old 'long-in-the-tooth' Intel/nVidia system presently, that has done me well, owes me nothing (LOL!),  and was on a few sites tracking down a motherboard that will (with profiles...) allow for 4,600 Mhz, (if I decided on that...) and can run 64 GB's of System RAM.  If I am going to spend $$$'s on a new system, I want to seriously,  future (spend proof) the system...so am going for the fastest 5000 series CPU,  matched to the fastest AMD GPU hotrod, (to take total advantage of the CPU/GPU pathway pairing (which I suggest you look into...before you lay down for nVidia...) and finally either 3,600 Mhz, or 4,600 Mhz non-RGB (serious gimmick!) 64 GB memory, with a full featured X570 motherboard,  and a honking huge double (one on top of the other) heat-sink CPU cooler.   I have presently a Dell XPS x730 case, which is massive, ex(tended)-ATX size (if wanted) for the Motherboard, and has tons of room for the double height cooler and fans.  So...(rubbing hands), I'm into AMD like you. I think, that they have finally arrived next to, or even eclipsing Intel and nVidia for 2021....

     

     

    X570 chipset is the last one paired with AM4 socket, next year there will be new socktet with DDR5 and other new features. 
    AMD GPUs are ca. 20% slower than nVidia when raytracing is enabled (which is planned for MSFS along DX12 update) 

    3600MHz is sweet spot for 3000 series CPUs for 5000 series for now 3800MHz is sweet spot, some who got/will get lucky in silicon lottery will be able to push infinity fabric to 2000MHz (4000MHz for RAM) but You have to remember that AMD guarantees ram speed up to 3200MHz anything above that is OC. In 64GB kits there aren’t that many options that work with X570 and are up to 3600MHz. 
     

    Early info on Rocket Lake suggests that IPC will be better by double digits, 4.2GHz rocket lake will be as fast as 5.2GHz Comet Lake and it will launch by the end of Q1 2021.

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    Using a standard Non-HDR monitor with MS2020

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    8 hours ago, renault said:

    The EIZO Color Edge Prominence is a true HDR color reference monitor which meets the HDR brightness standard of 1000 cd/m2 and has a contrast ratio of 1,000,000:1

    Specs are out of this World so is the price of this gem ca. 30k USD.

     

    8 hours ago, renault said:

    Hi

    I think that perhaps you misunderstood me. I was not suggesting to change your settings to match mine, but I was simply relating that this was my monitor specification

    I didn’t feel that You were asking me to do so. Sometimes I play FPS games with my friends (cs:go, PUBG) and I don’t change my monitor settings and I know it makes me harder to spot people.

     

     

    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    @B12 always check in chosen memory kit is on QVL list of this motherboard. I wouldn't expect to hit 5GHz on AMD, that's not the way this CPU work, any OC is aimed at hitting highest sustainable MHz on all cores. 4,8GHz on all cores won't be possible. Cooling wise, if You can afford and have space You could use this cooler in Push/pull configuration, depending on radiator and fan speed there is up to 30% more cooling performance.

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    Buying new AMD parts on 5th November Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz, motherboard and ram.

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    3 hours ago, B12 said:

    Please check out comparability of parts if anyone knows, feel free to give advice on better parts if you know, its been a long time since I've used AMD, on Intel here for 3 PC's and a laptop.
     

    Motherboard RAM : MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 ATX Motherboard, LINK : https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi-amd-am4-ddr4-x570-atx-motherboard-mb-351-ms.html


    IMPORTANT: All appropriate AMD motherboards are apparently going to need a BIOS flash for this new gen of CPU with a bang up to date BIOS being released on Nov 5th for their release, but since I dont have any AMD CPU's (or know anyone who does) I may have a problem flashing the motherboard CPU'less ? ... have heard some boards these days can be flashed without a CPU plugged in, I wonder if the motherboard in link is capable of this? cant seem to find any info regarding that.

    Appreciate any advice or help regarding this upgrade.


    Yes it is possible to flash BIOS without CPU page 32 of user manual explains how to do that. From my knowledge MSI X570 Unify is more popular option for max performance @ reasonable cost. Ram wise, it’s better to wait for reviews, who knows maybe there is even more performance to gain with Infinity Fabric OC, zen 2 can go IF@3800MHz maybe zen 3 can 4000MHz, then having ram capable of 4000MHz could be worth considering. I have G Skill kit with Samsung B-die OC’ed from 3600 to 3800 just to run IF @ 3800MHz.

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