jamesreecewilson Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Gday all from sunny Australia, Im having extreme trouble trying to install Aus sp4, ybbn and ymml on my pc, it suggests i have installed everything properly however when I select fly now, all i see is loading 0% untill the program becomes unresponsive 10 min later. I have uninstalled fsx and reinstalled, Orbx as well and still nothing!!!! Somebody please help as i am missing out on some great scenery! Pc specs i7 2600k liquid cooled 16gb ram 600gb vel rap hdd 60 gb ssd 1000w psu 6870 His gpu cheers, james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hi James, welcome to the FTX support forums You'll need to add your order number to your signature for support, please read this thread for more info />http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/1157-important-notice-please-add-your-order-to-your-sig-for-support/ Thanks! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hi Tim, hope this helps! HELP! Regards James Order #FSS0119979 Flightsimstore Order id: #3366 Pc Aviator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hi James, Ta for that, Firstly I'll assume you have applied the the AU SP4 servicepack, and the latest Orbxlibs last? Can you open up FTXcentral and cycle between [Default FSX] and [Oceania/Australia] pressing OK each time, and let me know if you get any errors Cheers Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 done this many times, selecting and unselecting after i have got the patch, then orbxlibs. I have done everything by the book! I have installed and reinstalled about 5 times. This keeps happening. I cant work it out?! Its almost like it cant find the scenery files and freezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hmm, most strange! I'll assume FTXcentral displays no errors then? If you set FTXcentral to [Default FSX] are you able to load up FSX in Australia somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes, it will load default scenery and fsx works. I dont get it either. I see from youtube clips how good orbx products are with add on aircraft, i dont know whether i have struck a dud disc? As my pc specs are well and truely good enough to run orbx i dont know what else to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi James, your pc specs are more than enough to run FTX, so just to rule out some things..can you advise me of any other products you have installed? especially any AI or 3rd party Mesh/Landclass Otherwise try this: 1 - set FTXcentral to [Default FSX] 2 - Delete the entire ORBX folder 3 - Run a search of your FSX folder for 'ORBX' delete ORBX labeled files also (some effects files) 4 - Ensure you have FSX SP1+2 or FSX+Acceleration/GOLD installed 5 - Install the AU SP4 DVD, and after its finished run the AU SP4.002 servicepack, then lastly run the latest Orbxlibs 6 - Now set FTXcentral to [Australia] and load up a flight at YBAS, and report back Cheers Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 will do mate, just deleted all addon software and unistalled fsx again, im going to try what you said after i install it again. Will report back later!! And thanks for the help! regards james' Orbx is the only 3rd party scenery i have. All the rest are aircraft: wilco 777 wilco airbus evol 1+2 just flight 737 pmdg 747 pmdg 737 level d 767 pmdg js4100 aerosoft dh6 i fly 737 just flight md 81 just flight traffic x Also i run 3x 24 inch screens off an HIS 6870 if this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Windows 7 64 bit os Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ok Tim, I finally got sp4 working with amazing results! Thankyou very much, however when i then installed Melb Internation V2 my problem arrises again. Loading terrain data.... 0% stuck! AHHHHH When the melb v2 cd was installing it froze around the object flow mark and was unresponsive but then regained itself and finished the loading. Is this a problem?? All other airports work fine!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Harris Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Roger that, glad to hear FTX Australia region is up and running, did you re-run the Orbxlibs after installing YMMLV2? I'll ask Marty to drop in to help with the YMML issue as I'm not sure what is wrong there Cheers Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hey guys, still having trouble. I can fly in lilydale airport however when i load melb it freezes at 0 % or 28 % Im not sure whats going on? It looks like the ymml files and ybbn file is not in the right place??? Orbx>ftx_au ftxaa Airports ftxaa orbxlibs ftxaa ybbn ftxaa ymml ftxau05 roads Is this correct? cheers james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi James, the airport folders will have their own separate folders, so YBBN & YMML are OK. What I'm concerned about is that you have only the one AU SP4 folder (FTXAU05 Roads). Is that all the folders that reside in the FTX AU folder? You'll notice from my screenshot of my folder there are another 12 folders. If you have only the one folder, than something has gone wrong with your installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henare Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hi James, I note you have Just Flight Traffic X, you will need to ensure any APX (AFCAD) files included in Traffic X for any of our addon airports is disabled. I think Traffic X has a Scenery folder and in there should be individual files for airports. Do a search for YMML and cut the file and save to a safe place. FSX does not like duplicate APX files and they often cause crashes and odd behaviour. In terms of Objectflow you should have got messages on initial startup after installation asking you to agree to use Objectflow. But Objectflow itself is pretty robust and not know to cause crash problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hi Ed and Martin, Firstly ed, i have the rest of these files that you are showing, i just got lazy and did not add them, so i know thats normal. An martin i did a full reinstall of fsx with no add ons except orbx Aus sp4 and Melb and bris airports. Nothing else. I am wondering if i can download the melb file insted of cd boot to see if thats where the problem lies maybe??? Im clutching at straws at present! I recently omitted 2 out of the 3 screens that i was using and the load times seems to be quicker dont know why? Sorry to be a pain guys! However i love your scenery and cant wait to get this problem fixed! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Guys, i dont know if this helps however my hard drive (i think its that) makes a noise like its searching fro something, over and over and over when it freezes? With no result. However when i click task manager it tells me its still running. Untill i end task and it says program unresponsive? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Are the noises loud "mechanical" sounding clicks? It coukd be getting stuck on some damaged sectors. Might be handy to run chkdsk or some sort of hard drive scan. Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Nope all is fine, noise is operation (not loud.) i just ran checkdsk all is fine..... All other addons in the past have worked, which makes me think i have recieved bad software disks??? I dont understand why this is the only problem ive had? especially now i have the sp4 cd working and nothing else. Both of the cd's melb and brisbane whilst copying files, pause for 2 min half way through and i have not had issues like this with other cds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 just a shot in the dark here, did you install SP1+SP2 for fsX or do you have Acceleration installed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I have Acceleration installed, is that a drama? Deluxe edition followed by Acceleratiion expansion pack, is this ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 yup, that's fine I was merely checking as we had some members having "issues" and it turned out they had only the basic fsX installed without the SP's and that don't work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 FEEW! thanks, i thought i was going crazy. Now i cant even get ymml to run at all! With just the sp4 cd. Im just about over this!!!!! I have the same pc as you almost. However i am running 16g ram, could this be a problem? Also, am i supposed to see an application in ftx central, ie- a logo next to Default fsx and Australia for YMML and YBBN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Henare Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 No FTX Central is primarily a tool to turn on and off FTX Regions so if you only have AU then you will have an Australia and a Default icon. The airports are setup using the normal FSX scenery addon process. To try to isolate the issue the best method is to run only one addon at a time and test. Confirm they work on their own then try combinations. So with both FTX AU and YMML installed. Go to FTX Central and select Default, then try to run YMML and also try loading at Point Cook, Avalon, Essendon and Morrabin as well. If all works the issue might be with AU. If not then you will need to disable YMML manually in the FSX Addon Library menu and deselect FTX_YMML. Restart FSX and try the above airports again and report back. Then with YMML deselected. close FSX and using FTX Central select FTX AU and try the tests above again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Loaded moorabin and it froze on o% to start with, then after 2min loaded, so i took off and flew over essendon and melb with no problems how ever scenery was loading slowly in the distance. Too slow. thats without ymml v2 installed. However if i select to start from melb it just will not load. I have no problems when i first install sp4. with any airports! it is only once i load ymml v2 that problems occur so thus means its ymmlv2 that is causing problems, yes? I can evn load lilydale from your free section and that works with no problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Just ran a a small test of my own, i selected ymml and left it sit at 0% for 15 min, then out of knowhere it loads the rest and vwala! Surley this does not happen to take this long for everyone else does it? I then selected ybbn after loading it, and sure enough after about 15 min at 0% it loads! I know they are large scenery packages but why is it taking sooo long? I am downloading cairns ap to see if that makes any difference also. will report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hi James, maybe you'd like to share your hardware specs with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Routley Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I think he already has Wolter! (first post) No James, this is far from normal. I'm still not convinced your HDD is functioning normally. Just to backtrack a bit .. if you had a dud disc, the installer would be unlikely to unpack at all. It is "near impossible" to have a clean scenery install that causes long pauses then continues fine .. and it does seem that you have some basic problems there. Some steps to try: 1. Cold Reboot. Shutdown after installing scenery, and do a cold restart (sounds obvious, but I know how many times I've overlooked this with loading hangs ... it is now the first thing I do) 2. Disable Antivirus (or at least exclude your FSX Directory and subdirectories from it). Check for other processes (eg windows indexing task etc, while at it) Make sure Windows isn't backing itself up. -- this is very important. 3. Chkdsk Not sure what form your chkdsk took, but: logged in as admin group open a command prompt window by typing cmd in the "Run" box use chkdsk with the following options: chkdsk {drive}: /f /r (where {drive} is the drive letter of your FSX scenery ) Your system will report that it can't lock the disk, and suggest scheduling a disk check, Answer yes. Restart and let the disk check complete. Note any issues. 4. HDD Transfer Speed If chkdsk all ok, run a basic disc check to make sure you are getting speeds as expected: HDTune (free version should suffice) --- a Vrap should be able to sustain about 100Mb/sec in non-RAID configuration. (HDTune can also do a disk surface test, but it is long and tedious) Controllers don't always function properly --- drivers aren;t always good (the RTM Win7x64 driver for the ICH10R gave me BSODS and lockups for weeks until I figured it out!) 5. Defrag If no errors and no glitches in the above steps then defrag (any defrag, even the windows one) Lets get these basic "environment" things out of the way first ... then return to the scenery files issue. On this note, there are large terrain files within the YMML package, which are vulnerable to fragmentation, and/or scanning slowdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Always do a cold reboot after installing all software! Ran Chksdsk with no errors over the 5 stages. Will try hdd transfer speed and defrag Anti virus is off. HDD Transfer Min 85mbps Max 138 mbps Ave 117.8mbps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 WHOOOOOHOOOO! IT working and loading in under 15 sec! Im doing cartwheels! Thanks to IAN WOLTER MARTIN TIM and ED for all your help. The scenery is sensational! Thanks a million! I simple defrag and it works like a charm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Great stuff James, now go and enjoy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesreecewilson Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 When are you guys going to bring out YSSY, YPPH and YPAD i cant get enough now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hooked for life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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