ablackhawk2 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi, I just installed 0S9 yesterdayand there is a problem with scenery alignment. There are planes hanging above the ground its just not right. When it first loads it crashes then it restartes my plane looks like its on the water or something. Is there some help you have for me to fix this? Kind regards, Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Cajic Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Have you installed the PNW.004a patch? you can download it here ---> http://fullterrain.com/support.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 I do have that patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Armstrong Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi Ken, could you post a screenshot or two of the issue? It will help us figure out what's going on. Thanks! -Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 I hope this helps. http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/4822012_1_4_20_1_41_643.jpg[/img] http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/9162012_1_4_20_2_2_5.jpg[/img] http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/images/3112012_1_4_20_2_2_219.jpg[/img] Not sure which ones you use. http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/view.php?filename=4822012_1_4_20_1_41_643.jpg http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/view.php?filename=9162012_1_4_20_2_2_5.jpg http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshots/view.php?filename=3112012_1_4_20_2_2_219.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Scott, I hope I havent lost you. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Armstrong Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hi Ken, sorry for the delay! Hmm, I haven't seen this one before and unfortunately don't quite know what might be causing it... I've notified some of the other developers and we'll work hard to get this issue ironed out for you. In the meantime, a few things to check: Does it only happen at 0S9? Did you have NA active while installing the scenery? Have you tried uninstalling and re-installing the scenery? Thanks for your patience! -Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiko Glatthorn Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Looks to me like a complete vRAM exhaustion (or eventually a problem with the GPU). What are your system specs and FSX settings (specially autogen and water) ? What kind of tweaks are you using - probably Bufferpools=0 ? Any shader mods active ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Scott, First two questions Yes. I have not tried uninstall. Will try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Hi Kenneth, before you reinstall could you look at Heiko's post? Your screenshots show all the systems of VRAM exhaustion and general GPU overload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Hi, This problem is strange. I have noticted when tthe scenery first loads it crashes then restarts with the screenshot you seen. Another thing is if I just slew the plane up just a little everthing looks fine. But when I take it out of the slew mode it sinks back down and we have those sceenshot. It seems that it is in a hole. Could this be some elevation problem? Am not clear on what you mean by VRAM exhaustion and general GPU overload. I have all your na scenerys and they work fine. I have all setting you suggest fot FSX. Everything looks great when I slew it up. My computer is a Dell XPS 730X- i7cpu -6.00 GB ram I thing my computer is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 VRAM refers to your video memory, it looks like the XPS 730X came equipped with either a GTX285 or a 4870 X2 which would seem to be powerful enough. VRAM exhaustion is when your graphics card's memory is filled. In FSX this leads to artifacts like no ground, spikes, black squares, etc. If you can slew up and everything is fine, then it sounds like you may have conflicting APX files. What elevation is your active runway at? Do you have any other sceneries that impact 0S9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi, Where ever am at elevation setting is 110.9. When I slew up onto the runway am at 122.0. I havent noticed any other problems. When I change back to the default setting in FTX Central and go to 0S9 its fine. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normandean Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Another thing to look at is whether you have anothe AFD file for the airport. It could be that you have had another scenery that has not completely uninstalled, an additional file in an ai system, such as MyTraffic X or else and addon for the area that includes altitude corrections. I often find that problems like these are caused for users of MTX and if you are one of these then look in the MTX scenery folder and see if there is a pertinent file with the suffix br2_. Also look in your world\scenery folder to see if there is an .alt file for the airport as well. Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Me again, I have search my whole comupter and I did'it fine anything. I looked in all those places you said and all I fine is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normandean Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 The default height for 0S9 is 107ft, which allowing for the difference between ground level and the height of your altimetter in the cockpit is about the same. So you are loading at the default height not the height as in the AFD for PNW. AFAIK this will only happen in two instances; either you have an AFD file at default height that is interfering with the PNW one, or you have a mesh that is set at the default height for this location. Do you have any addon meshes for this area, or other addons that could have height data in them? Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 I have a lot of scenery files and mesh . How do I go about finding what would be interfering with PNW? What kind of files would be around 0S9? I don't know what to look for. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hi Ken, Do you have any global meshes or global AI programs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Am sure I do. One I have is fsgenesis. I know I have others also. Am not sure how to find them and what to do with them. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Do you have any AI traffic programs? Could you try disabling FSGenesis? Disable it from your Scenery Library, then try cycling FTX Central to Default then back to NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Maly Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 And perhaps a very thorough defrag - sometimes it does wonders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Armstrong Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Also (and you may have already done this), but make sure that 0S9 and PNW are at the top of your scenery library. I'm thinking hard of what else to try, although at this point it does look like interference from another scenery addon of some kind. It may be a bit of work, but I would try uninstalling some of your other addons and testing 0S9 after each uninstall in order to find the culprit. Sorry for this trouble! -Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Maly Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I used to have such a bizarre situations with my GTX260, not being able to cope with FTX. It very well could be GPU related... Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi, Ok you guys I got a new one. You know first of if you guys did'nt have so GOOD of scenery I would ask for all this good help you are giving me. I have all your scenery except 0S9 and I hate yo quit on it. Ok if I load the 0S9 right from the start of FSX it will load ok. It looks ok but there are mounds which I think would be mesh problem but it loads. I have done all you have suggested but defrag. What do we have left we can do. Thanks. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 If I'm understanding correct, you now load up on the runway properly? Could you post pictures of the mounds caused by mesh loading errors? Hopefully we can get closer to the root of the problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Armstrong Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi Ken, Just curious, what caused the change? If it was a specific addon that you disabled, it would be very beneficial for us to know what it was so we can more easily resolve these sorts of issues in the future. Also, if you wouldn't mind, could you please post your 0S9 order # in your sig? Thanks! -Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hi Ok guys first of all I got it to load on the runway by loading at the free flight screen you know before FSX loads your defult fight. But with the mounds all over the place. I had the idea to try that. But it still will not load on the runway if I load it after FSX loads. I hope am makeing sense because this is causing me to start drinking. Just kidding. You wanted screenshots of the mounds,the last one is from the first problem. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 That looks like the PNW 4.a patch isn't working or there are conflicting APX files. Could you go to your Flight Simulator X folder and search "0S9"? The results should look like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Ok I can't find any of these files anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'd say make sure the Viruscanner is disabled, make sure you have Admin rights, check that User Account Control is turned OFF and then right-click the installer and Install as Administrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Could you also post a screenshot of what your FTX_AA_0S9/scenery folder looks like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Alex, How do you send text because I can't get it to work the way I sent the pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Here's how to take a screenshot and post it to the forums: http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/38447-how-to-post-a-screenshot-on-the-orbx-forums/ I can't recall if FSX can take screenshots of the menu, if pressing "V" doesn't work, hit "Print Screen", and paste the image into Paint or another image editing program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott Armstrong Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hi Ken, We're still hard at work on fixing your issue, and progress is being made on figuring out the cause. Thanks again for your patience, and sorry for the trouble! To help us out, could you please post some screenshots of your scenery library in FSX? That will let us know which addon sceneries you have installed. Since you probably won't be able to get all entries into one shot, scroll down the list and take another shot of each section. Also, I don't believe we ever got a definitive answer - Do you have an AI traffic program installed? (MyTrafficX, Ultimate Traffic, etc.) -Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hi Scott, You don't know what you are asking. I have a ton of scenery in that library. here goes. I do have My Traffic X and your traffic FTX AU Traffic. OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 What happened to your last posts ? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Hi Ken, with the forum maintainence some posts have "disappeared". Can you confirm that FTX Central is set to North America? Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackhawk2 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yes FTX Central is set to North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Armstrong Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hi Ken, Yes I was pretty bummed to see that my post disappeared, too. :/ It said something to the effect of this: First, run a search for "0S9" in your main FSX installation folder (use search bar in top right). The search should return 92 files, most of them with either "ORBX" or "FTX" somewhere in the title. There are four GOOD files that don't contain ORBX or FTX though; they are as follows: 0S9 User Guide.pdf 0S9_ADEX_SRA_CVX.bgl scenerylib__US_0S9.cfg Objectflow_0S9.dll If any other files turn up, please post their names here so we can determine if they should be switched off or not. If no other files turn up, try deactivating the following entries from your library, one by one, to see if we can find the culprit: UT USA Airports All Megascenery Earth Washington entries NEXTMap ProMesh Uninstall FS Global 2010 (if you have it) Uninstall My Traffic X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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