Mike62 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I installed PAKT and 0S9 and when I loaded PAKT at GA parking, I have these floating aircraft. Does anyone know what causes this? hope I attached the screenshot correctly. Thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky76 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I had this at first as well. I just reloaded the airport and all was fine. Also, make sure you don't install an older version of the orbxlibs as the PAKT installer has the latest version as of today. Hope this helps. Happy holidays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 thanks I will reload, the airline area works good. Also the libraries should not be an issue because I installed 0S9 today also. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 that did not work so I am going to reinstall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky76 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Before you do that, make sure your mesh resolution setting is set for 5m. Not sure if that will help but that is the requirement in the user guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramkek Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I have the same problem. Have tried all the posted fixes. any clues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 My mesh resolution setting is 5m and reinstalling PAKT did not solve the issue. For now I will enjoy 0S9 and hopefully figure this problem out next week . Happy holidays. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky76 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Sorry mike, I'm sure someone will chime in with a solution soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramkek Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Mike, TrafficX (Justflight) program was causing conflict on my system. Seems an AI problem. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Russ will have a solution on this for sure but I believe that any addon AFX files will cause problems with this airport. Try searching for any other AFX files for PAKT and disabling them, with the proper AFX file there shouldn't be any AI traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 To chime in with Alex, indeed you cannot use external APX files due to the nature of how PAKT is build, the traffic files will only operate on a flat surface wich PAKT is absolutely not, so please make sure you disable / delete any 3rd party traffic files that have PAKT in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Houston Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 . . . . so please make sure you disable / delete any 3rd party traffic files that have PAKT in it. Hi Wolter: I'm having the same problem, but I'm wondering where in the directory structure one would find such files as you mention? This is my first such installation snag with Orbx sceneries, so be gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLighT Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I kinda remember that when I installed Tongass (or was it PFJ) that I had to turn off 2 BGL's that belonged to UTX off. Perhaps now those 2(?) newTongass ones need to be turned off to accommodate the PAKT addon. Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texerrn Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 My PAKT is floating way above the original PFJ scenery. I can fly and land on the PFJ version. The new PAKT is at least 500 ft. above. Funny to see little people walking a 1/4 above me and objects floating in space. Very disappointed. The original PFJ scenery was workable this is a mess. I have installed several times with no change. Completely unusable and uncceptable. This was suppose to be a Christmas present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 If you're having issues with floating, please reload. If the issue persists then check for 3rd party AFX files. To find third party AFX files just search PAKT and if it isn't a default FSX file, PFJ file, or PAKT addon, then it is likely to be the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texerrn Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I found a work around for my elevation problem. I actually saw PAKT the way it was suppose to be. The way the pictures show it. I used the scenery configuration editor and found the layer: FTX _ _ AA _ PAKT among the previous scenery layers from PFJ and PNW. Simply moved this layer to priority number one. Above everything else. It worked, the airport was correct, the seaplane docks were on the water and the Alaska Air 737 is parked in front of the terminal. Wonderful. I paused to take a screen shot, the scenery reloaded and everything vanished and retuned to pakt in the sky again. But I did see it correctly if only briefly. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texerrn Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I seem to have my elevation errors have completly resolved after moving layer ORBX FTX _AA_ _ PAKT to the priority number one position. FSX has loaded and come up with Ketchican correctly now several times. I intend to leave it this way untill somebody else at ORBX has a better idea. By the way it seems really dark there at night. I have already landed at night then taxied my 185 right over a cliff in the dark looking for the taxi way. And it seems the ILS for rwy 08 is now very steep. Minor issues. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I had the same problem. Had also Traffic X installed; so turned AF2_PAKT.bgl off by renaming as AF2_PAKT.off;.... problem is solved. ( you find AF2_PAKT.bgl under ... Microsoft Flight Simulator X/JustFlight/TrafficX/AirportFacilities/Scenery/ ) The floating airplanes are indeed from 3rd party addons By the way, This airport is awson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Routley Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Thankyou Whisper. Very helpful first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ White Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 That is correct, due to the unique nature of the airport layout and different development technique to realise the elevation differences, any other 3rd party AI files for PAKT will cause issues. This is because they lter the APX which has been very specifically set up at PAKT to make the elevations work correctly. Unfortunately there is no way for us to compensate for other developers files, so you have to follow the above advice to dissable their PAKT apx files. The reason everything appears to be floating is because the 3rd party apx files are forcing you to start below the airport elevation. Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Hi there guys I got the same issues, but I have no 3rd party traffic installed on the system but I will tell that after installing PAKT airport I also installed the FTXORBXLIBS_111207 after the PAKT install and now Im seeing this is the wrong thing to do (I was told to do that by a non developer). Well tryed the fixes posted above and nothing works. I will say that I flew in to the airport and everything was great and looked good but now when I takeoff from the airport things are not right, I cant even find the uninstaller for any of the ORBX sceneries, where are they? I use airhauler and airhauler will start you from where you last parked so I cant even taxi UP to the runway. I know you guys will find a fix and I will wait it out, hopefully not long. Marry Christmas guys and keep up the good work. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Hi Larry, for support query's please be so kind and add your ordernumber(s) to your Sig as per forum rules. Info on how to do that you can find here => http://fullterrain.com/support.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Hi Larry, for support query's please be so kind and add your ordernumber(s) to your Sig as per forum rules. Info on how to do that you can find here => http://fullterrain.com/support.html opps sorry i'll do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 opps sorry i'll do that ok well im not much of a fourm writing type of guy and I always wanted to figger out how to put thouse cool system spec and other stuff under my post that I wrote, sorry for being a (lack of better word) dumb a. but here is my order number FSS0142522. And Wolter the link you gave me points me to where it says but I could not find how to put that stuff under my sig (but I do want too know). Sorry for the issue and thanks for the reply back. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 no worries Larry I've added your ordernumbers to your sig. as for your lil problem, simply re-install PAKT and you should be fine as for your Sig, go to your control panel, forum profile and there you can edit it hit, apply and it should show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 no worries Larry I've added your ordernumbers to your sig. as for your lil problem, simply re-install PAKT and you should be fine as for your Sig, go to your control panel, forum profile and there you can edit it hit, apply and it should show I've tryed to find the uninstallers in the normal spots but could not find them, please tell me where they are. Lar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Hi Larry we do not use un-installers, the reason for that is that un-installers tend to screw things up, so make sure FTX Central is set to NA and re-install the PAKT package again, that should about do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 ok well I already reinstalled overtop of PAKT before I even started writing in the fourms about this issue, thank you for all your replys back but I think its got something with the elavation thing becouse if I start on the active rwy everything is good but if I start FSX with airhauler running and start with the last place I parked thats where issues start. I'll just have to start on the active rwy or something you can see how many sceneries I got from you guys and this it the first problem I have got, so you guys are in great standing with me. I know the issue will be fixed in a SP or something so I can start in the last place I parked Thank you for your help Lar BTW, PAKT is my new home base for airhauler so I'll be there alot, I've been waiting for the ORBX team to come out with an airport that will support a 737 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 ok well I already reinstalled overtop of PAKT before I even started writing in the fourms about this issue, thank you for all your replys back but I think its got something with the elavation thing becouse if I start on the active rwy everything is good but if I start FSX with airhauler running and start with the last place I parked thats where issues start. I'll just have to start on the active rwy or something you can see how many sceneries I got from you guys and this it the first problem I have got, so you guys are in great standing with me. I know the issue will be fixed in a SP or something so I can start in the last place I parked Thank you for your help Lar BTW, PAKT is my new home base for airhauler so I'll be there alot, I've been waiting for the ORBX team to come out with an airport that will support a 737 You said that you use Air Hauler to reload your last saved position, was this last position saved before you installed PAKT? If so it may have saved your altitude and upon reloading, placed you lower than the elevation of the PAKT addon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeugli Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I solved for myself the elevation errors ar the new PAKT (same as yours: floating above around 50 ft) as follows: I just deactivated (.bgl_OFF) the two bgl-files "ADE_FTX_PFJ_PAKT_17AK_Ketchikan_TEMSCO_heli_1m_ALT.bgl" & "ADE_FTX_PFJ_PAKT_AK1H_Ketchikan_N_Tongass_Hwy_heli_8m_ALT.bgl" in the Scenery\World\Scenery-Folder. (After a long haul of experiments ) Now everything is correct at least elevation wise! The former airport apron + RTMM scenery at that airport (CIRP office at PAKT!) sits further on beneath the new PAKT airport (in the underground so to say ) Rainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 You said that you use Air Hauler to reload your last saved position, was this last position saved before you installed PAKT? If so it may have saved your altitude and upon reloading, placed you lower than the elevation of the PAKT addon no this is after the ORBX PAKT when i last parked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I solved for myself the elevation errors ar the new PAKT (same as yours: floating above around 50 ft) as follows: I just deactivated (.bgl_OFF) the two bgl-files "ADE_FTX_PFJ_PAKT_17AK_Ketchikan_TEMSCO_heli_1m_ALT.bgl" & "ADE_FTX_PFJ_PAKT_AK1H_Ketchikan_N_Tongass_Hwy_heli_8m_ALT.bgl" in the Scenery\World\Scenery-Folder. (After a long haul of experiments ) Now everything is correct at least elevation wise! The former airport apron + RTMM scenery at that airport (CIRP office at PAKT!) sits further on beneath the new PAKT airport (in the underground so to say ) Rainer Well this didnt work eather Guys thanks for all your help I give up, there is an option to choose which gate to start at in airhauler and I cant even do that, no gates are listed there. But like I said in an previous post "iI can start on an active rwy and all is ok". Its alright, there is an obvious problem, I know there will be a fix. Thanks again Lar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I think if you're selecting a gate with Air Hauler the problem is that PAKT does not have any traditional parking spaces. Some of the start locations are parking locations though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Have you tried starting at postion 1 or 2? They are starts from parking spots and although they are not listed as 'runway' starts Air Hauler may think they are. As I've stated on another thread, you just cannot place normal parking spots at this airport as it has multi levels and FSX will only allow airports which are dead flat. We have done a number of things differently to make this airport work within the FSX framework and at this point I see nothing that needs to be 'fixed' in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Imler Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 ok, now I fill like a big AHole, its not the scenery its a airhauler thing. I picked postion 1 for PAKT and everything was good. Before i was just picking an active rwy and things were good, went to airhauler and things were bad. Sorry for wasting everybodys time. Airhauler does not pick up parking postions in PAKT for some reason and just puts me in the place that i last parked. I see now its nothing to do with your scenery its a airhauler thing. sorry for the confusion and thank you for your time and i'll stop bothering you guys Lar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Eccleston Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Great to see you're now sorted. The advantage of posting here is that the issue and outcome is now documented for others to read if they have a similar problem. We have no 'AHoles' here, just contributors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 I started this thread and have been out of town so I could not respond. I just recently reinstalled FSX and have not installed any traffic programs so that should not be an issue. I get this problem when picking start location 2 but start location 1 is ok. I tried reinstalling and get the same issue. If I wanted to install fresh, do I only delete the PAKT Folder from the Orbx directory? Would Tongass X have any conflicts with this scenery? Thanks for everyone's help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 Disregard Tongass part of the question, Holger already answered that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 I solved for myself the elevation errors ar the new PAKT (same as yours: floating above around 50 ft) as follows: I just deactivated (.bgl_OFF) the two bgl-files "ADE_FTX_PFJ_PAKT_17AK_Ketchikan_TEMSCO_heli_1m_ALT.bgl" & "ADE_FTX_PFJ_PAKT_AK1H_Ketchikan_N_Tongass_Hwy_heli_8m_ALT.bgl" in the Scenery\World\Scenery-Folder. (After a long haul of experiments ) Now everything is correct at least elevation wise! The former airport apron + RTMM scenery at that airport (CIRP office at PAKT!) sits further on beneath the new PAKT airport (in the underground so to say ) Rainer Unfortunately this did not solve my problem. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 I seem to have my elevation errors have completly resolved after moving layer ORBX FTX _AA_ _ PAKT to the priority number one position. FSX has loaded and come up with Ketchican correctly now several times. I intend to leave it this way untill somebody else at ORBX has a better idea. By the way it seems really dark there at night. I have already landed at night then taxied my 185 right over a cliff in the dark looking for the taxi way. And it seems the ILS for rwy 08 is now very steep. Minor issues. Lee This did not resolve my issue. I am very disappointed. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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