Adrian Lehmann (FSS) Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Now I know this is blatant advertising and John, Jay and other mods please feel free to give me a nice slap on the toosh if it's totally inappropriate but I am excited!! I've just received new pricing for The ButtKicker Gamer and it's been heavily reduced! Now down to $199.00 from $297.95. This is one awesome bit of kit and really enhances immersion, you actually feel the bumps in the runway, the hum of the engines, the transitions of the landing gear and flaps.... Take a look: http://www.flightsimstore.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=81&products_id=451 PC Pilot Review: http://www.mittoni.com.au/downloads/ButtkickerGamer-Review.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Adrian, Consider your Butt "kicked" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Well I have just purchased the AI sound pack from FSS and when I crank up the subwoofer on my speakers and watch AI coming in to land, I can hear the "thump" of the wheels as they make contact. I can just imagine how in-my-face that would be with the ButtKicker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Mason Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 ok just so you know how retarded I am, Adrian and I were on MSN today with him giving me the measurements to see if it will fit under the seat in my squad car. lol. Some people who read this will be like WTF but the ones who get it will be laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmrich28 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 would work great for racing sims (Nascar) as well I bet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 It does esspecially if you have a full 7.1 sound out put that will allow the normal vibration freq's 100Hz down to be routed to the Buttkicker and not the SubWoofers themselves. I have a Homedics iCush and that is wicked I just need to build a frequency separation amp to drive it from Very Low Frequencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
}SkOrPn--7 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Got me knackered the misses insisted on purchasing this butt kicker but I'm yet too see it attached to any chair......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'm gunna leave that alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
}SkOrPn--7 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'm gunna leave that alone ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lehmann (FSS) Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 Got me knackered the misses insisted on purchasing this butt kicker but I'm yet too see it attached to any chair......... I'm not the only one excited about the ButtKicker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yallu Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I eat beans. It's cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I eat beans. It's cheaper. Do you have the "activation" adapted to your flying schedule or are you still practising to fine tune it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhead Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I eat beans. It's cheaper. you could always sell through to the Emissions trading scheme. I can't believe I wrote that. I can't believe I posted that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumman Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 If I can be excused for dragging the discussion back to the topic ... Can someone tell me how you connect your headphones or speakers up if the ButtKicker is connected to the sound output? Also, are there any other users here who have this device? I'd like to hear what you think about it, especially with Father's Day coming up Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhead Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Can someone tell me how you connect your headphones or speakers up if the ButtKicker is connected to the sound output? Greg Perhaps something like this?? http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/48a6cbd403668eb22742c0a87f9c0776/Product/View/P6525 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Depending on the Sound Card you could plug it into the Sub Woofer Channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandy Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I have mine plugged into the sound card jack and the desktop 8)speakers plugged into the cables that come with the Buttkicker. I have been using an eDimensional chair that cost me over $800 several years ago (to bring out from the States via FedEx) and although it was damned hard on the butt (seat had little padding) it was excellent for short flights - but the Buttkicker, although minus sound as per the eDimensional Chair, is worth every cent. The chair is now residing in the garage waiting for a new owner (I suppose). The Buttkicker is the way to go in my books. John G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I made an active amplifier/frequency filter to run the VERY low End Sound like ripple strips bumps etc and UC Thumps and the softer vibrations like engine to a early Homedics iCush which is me for driving Simulations BUT works well for Aviation too, it sounds very like the eDimential Chair. There are other products like this around too like the iVibe as well. I'll do a review soon if my BKG arrives today and knowing Adrians Service it probably will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 The BKG arrived yesterday Arvo late delivered by the Local Courier, I'll tell you now if ANYONE has a bad word to say about Adrians dispatch and response times would have to be a complete ID10T. Initial response after a rough setup (note to self Tidy up Office) prior to tucking things away neatly, HOLY SNAPPIN DUCK SHIT, I thought the iCush was good but the 2 in combination is absolutely wicked. Not flown yet but from a driving perspective in rFactor and the Porche Carrera's around Mt Panorama. you get to FEEL everything from axel hop and ripple strips to the gravel and grass if you stray from the blacktop, the thumps as the brakes let go after a lockup and MANY MANY other nuances that your not really aware of but the Active Amplifier Filter in the BKG and it's switchable Hi and Lo frequency cutoff is awesome. Looks like I need to do a proper review over the weekend to include flying too. Thanks Adrian , your customer service leaves many others in your wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lehmann (FSS) Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 HOLY SNAPPIN DUCK SHIT Yep.... that's about as much I had to say initially when I first gave it a whirl too. Thanks Adrian , your customer service leaves many others in your wake. My pleasure and thank you for your very positive testimonial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurdy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 After that review I am worried Adrian will run out b4 my B'day in October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Craig, I think if you ask Adrian nice enough he maybe could put one on the "reserve" shelf for you till then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurdy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Please please Adrian ... with ultra smooth textures on top ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lehmann (FSS) Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 There are plenty in stock atm so come October there should still be a few around for you too.... but if it starts getting low I'll be sure to put one away for you Gurdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurdy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Cheers Adrian. Appreciate it. I have locked it in with the Director of Finance and Domestic Affairs already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareagle Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Are you guys able to order from the US? These go for $99 at US based sites, like Amazon. I also saw it for $59 at a Canadian site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Are you guys able to order from the US? These go for $99 at US based sites, like Amazon. I also saw it for $59 at a Canadian site. Yes true but I've heard rumours of inferior copies being flogged to OS customers from US dealer's. I get a few bits and bobs on occasions from the US BUT there is a freight element and this in some instances will KILL YA. So you need to be VERY careful. Some of Adrians pricing is VERY competitive some not (this of course will depend on turnover and supply prices too) , BUT IMHO the quote below sums up my philosophy - I take a quote from another company that I think is VERY applicable to The Flight Sim Store. I quote " Long after the price has been forgotten - The quality of service will always be remembered " I feel sure that if we where posible give Adrian our trade then we will eventually be the winners. My Comments here are personal and have NOT been solicited in ANY way or form by The Flight Sim Store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurdy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 MK I agree, it is Adrians service that wins me over too. I have had nothing but good experience, and I dont have to wait up to 28 days for delivery. Also Amazon will not ship electronic items outside of the US and Canada, I believe there is some trade restriction. I found this out when trying to procure my flight yoke a couple of yrs ago. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcCormick Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Totally agree with Adrians service as said above. My question though, what kind of chair do you need for this? Will any kind of chair do or is there a specific type needed ie four legged, will it fit with a pedestal type chair?? Cheers, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lehmann (FSS) Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 My question though, what kind of chair do you need for this? Will any kind of chair do or is there a specific type needed ie four legged, will it fit with a pedestal type chair?? Hi Paul, Take a look at the product page, it has images of how it can be attached to any standard office chair. Then take a look at the video which shows how the reviewer mounted on his sim-pod. With a little creativity it can be mounted almost anywhere. http://www.flightsimstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Paul while I'm sure you have all read various reviews and so on regarding this product I'm going to do up some sort of a Forum Member Simmer type review of the BKG so you can see all and sundry with images of my setup and how it is connected etc, possibly and if I can get my Video Camera working even a short Multimedia file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcCormick Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Thanks Adrian, and Mozz, I must admit I have seen the photos but never really was that interested in the product until reading the posts here. As I read more from my fellow members the more I am interested. Mozz, I do await your review of BKG to see what you think, also I am interested in knowing if this product is beneficial for pilots who do long haul trips. Not to put a dampener on your post, Adrian, by no means, but as it is more suited to (as stated unless I misunderstood), GA aircraft and where you are more subject to lower winds and grassy strips, is this product suited to GA flying over long haul, airliner flying. Just after the honest assessment as I know I will always get from you guys. If it isn't suited to me then I will have to buy something else from you lol. Anyway look forward to the review, Mozz. Cheers, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lehmann (FSS) Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Hi Paul, I'd say it suited to both GA and airliner flying. While there's bass frequencies being output by your audio card there's vibration to be felt by the ButtKicker. Engine hum, flap and gear transitions etc. To be honest I haven't experienced it in anything larger than a Citation X but I found in that aircraft it was no less enjoyable than in a 172 or little Katana DA-20. Perhaps Mozz you can include a comparison in your review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcCormick Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Thanks for that, Adrian. Mozz over to you now old son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumman Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 The BKG arrived yesterday Arvo late delivered by the Local Courier, I'll tell you now if ANYONE has a bad word to say about Adrians dispatch and response times would have to be a complete ID10T. Initial response after a rough setup (note to self Tidy up Office) prior to tucking things away neatly, HOLY SNAPPIN DUCK SHIT, I thought the iCush was good but the 2 in combination is absolutely wicked. Not flown yet but from a driving perspective in rFactor and the Porche Carrera's around Mt Panorama. you get to FEEL everything from axel hop and ripple strips to the gravel and grass if you stray from the blacktop, the thumps as the brakes let go after a lockup and MANY MANY other nuances that your not really aware of but the Active Amplifier Filter in the BKG and it's switchable Hi and Lo frequency cutoff is awesome. Looks like I need to do a proper review over the weekend to include flying too. Thanks Adrian , your customer service leaves many others in your wake. Maurice, any more comments on the flight test yet? With Fathers Day coming up there could be a rare window of opportunity for some of us to get an off-budget funds allocation from our respective Chancellor of the Exchequer ;-) BTW, I've been trying your suggestion of coaxing FSX to output to the woofer channel on my sound card, but it's not showing the faintest interest in doing so. I guess the go must be to wire up the headphones in parallel. I hope the frequency discrimination is good enough to filter out voice. I don't want those VATPAC ATCs vibrating my chair Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm feverishly trying to button things up so I can present a complete review BUT a sneak peek. " .... BUT I will say that with careful tuning I flew the Carenado Cessna 210, 182 and then later the Mooney and after that the Flight One Software Pilatus PC-12 . To which I will reiterate the phrase I uttered at the first Impression. " Holy Snappin Duck Shit Batman ". For anyone that has actually strapped into the left or right Hand seat of a 182, 172 etc the feeling are so faithfully reproduced (within the confines of what can be done this way ) and if your sound pack has TRUE quality then the subtle nuances I felt I almost wasn't aware of until after an hour flight and careful tuning as previously described. I landed and taxied in then parked upon shutting down properly - ie advance the throttle just off the stop 1000-1200 RPM with the Park brake set cut the mixture. Well my seat was barely perceptively vibrating but as the engine slowed to a stop there was significant shaking and general Airframe shudder (due mainly to the accuracy of the sound pack from Caranado ) as the low frequencies stopped so did the vibrations. I can honestly say this so faithfully reproduced what I know of a 182, 172 that I was stunned especially as the Prop came to a stop the gentle and even subtle vibration was replaced as the sounds died away with a few brief thumps coinciding with the VERY low Bass sounds as the engine stopped. So gentle is the vibration and tireless are some of the tiny effects that you ( if you carefully tune the frequency and Power level in the BKG ) that you really don't realise just how much information you soaking up with my backside that I really wasn't aware of until I had landed. example Remember when your tired and been on the road for some time traveling say traveling interstate at holiday time and you pull up for a cat nap you are suddenly aware of how quiet things are with no road noise and vibration well this was the same sort of sensation. """ I was immediately transported back to some of my flights in western Queensland flying from gravel and grass strips with the thumps and rattles across the ground when I did a mercy Dash in the PC 12 out of Charleville but you'll have to wait for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Mason Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I am really interested to see how this performs from a helo perspective, as in if you can feel the skids touching the ground etc and especially with the advanced models as there is quite a bit of shaking on idle up on some of them. Unfortunately I think that this will be mainly dependant on how accurate the flight model is so I think my best shot is with the EC135 from nemeth or an Alphasim product but I will let you know as soon as I have it and get it installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 From what I've done so far it has more to do with how accurate the Sound Package is as this is where the various vibrations etc actually eminate from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurdy Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 My B'day wont come quick enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I'll try to get things buttoned up some time early in the week. including some Tubies and Rotorcraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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