hovercrafter Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Hello, (Just for customer validation transaction id 5d4a6bf057bbd TE Washington, 5d53b4de62e9c Skagit) Running X-plane 11.35 on Linux Mint 19.2 I am new to both X-Plane and Mint so please forgiven lack of diagnostics. Followed the instructions to install Central using the Debian version. After installation I cannot run the AppImage from my home directory. Running the command ./orbx-central-4.0.4.AppImage from the terminal I get at various attempts hung blank terminal screen, a splash screen saying it can't find a simulator (XP11 is installed on second disk) or the following error messages:- (orbx-central:15197): libappindicator-WARNING **: 08:17:40.190: Unable to get the session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” (orbx-central:15197): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: 08:17:40.190: Unable to get session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” Guessing that the original installation failed I have tried repeating the installation instructions with no better outcome. For info I have installed TrueEarth Washington and the UK demo manually in XP11.35 and they work very well (Linux & X-Plane & Orbx combo has excellent performance). Any guidance much appreciated. Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Hello Gordon, I'll move this to the Orbx Central support forum for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Had another go at re-installing - this time as root and in the X-Plane directory on the second disk. This time Central did start but the terminal had these error messages:- 2019-08-14 13:32:12 (5.89 MB/s) - ‘orbx-central-4.0.4.AppImage’ saved [120197464/120197464] root@gordon-LinuxMint:/media/gordon/X-P Files/X-Plane 11# chmod +x orbx-central-4.0.4.AppImage root@gordon-LinuxMint:/media/gordon/X-P Files/X-Plane 11# ./orbx-central-4.0.4.AppImage Gtk-Message: 13:34:36.879: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. Gtk-Message: 13:35:01.942: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. Gtk-Message: 13:35:06.627: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. Gtk-Message: 13:35:11.654: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. Gtk-Message: 13:35:24.093: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. Gtk-Message: 13:35:41.120: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. (orbx-central:8219): libnotify-WARNING **: 13:38:06.832: Failed to connect to proxy (orbx-central:8219): libnotify-WARNING **: 13:38:06.833: Failed to connect to proxy (orbx-central:8219): libnotify-WARNING **: 13:38:06.834: Failed to connect to proxy I was able to use Central to install Skagit KBVS Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Orbx Central has installed to the start menu but does not run. Starting from the terminal does work but with these messages:- gordon@gordon-LinuxMint:~$ sudo ./orbx-central-4.0.4.AppImage [sudo] password for gordon: (orbx-central:10597): libappindicator-WARNING **: 14:38:22.377: Unable to get the session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” (orbx-central:10597): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: 14:38:22.377: Unable to get session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” Strangely I now have two central App files:- /media/gordon/X-P Files/X-Plane 11/orbx-central-4.0.4.AppImage and /home/gordon/orbx-central-4.0.4.AppImage It is the latter which is being used now but the former was installed last and got Central running. Clearly I have some messed up files somewhere but as a newbie to Linux/X-Plane/Orbx Central and a 72year old Abacus user I am struggling. Guidance please guys guidance Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Hello Gordon, I would love to help but do not have Linux. I will tag the developers and see if they can help. @Mitchell Williamson @Josh Koz Please bear in mind that they are in Melbourne Australia, where it is now around midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Josh Koz Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hi Gordon, Can you try removing both Orbx Central AppImages and re-downloading and installing it to see if the issue persists? What desktop environment are you using with Linux Mint? The most popular is cinnamon which Orbx Central has been tested with and confirmed to work Finally do you have any other software installed in Linux that uses the AppImage packaging format and any of these exhibit similar issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 Hello Josh - many thanks for responding, Confirmed I am using Cinnamon desktop on Linux Mint 19.2 (pretty standard installation - I am not competent to tinker) I have uninstalled Central in both Home and on 2nd disk. I uninstalled X-Plane (deleted directory) Renamed 2nd Disk from X-P Files to X-P_Files and remounted Re-installed X-Plane Installed Orbx Central 4.0.6.AppImage as per web site instructions using root authority and residing in the X-P_Files/'X-Plane 11' directory when run it prompted to combine with system - I responded Yes It did not make a start menu entry Rebooted Double clicking on orbx-central-4.0.6.AppImage icon residing in X-P_Files restarts the menu for system integration and made a Start menu entry eventually The start menu entry fails (does nothing) Running in the terminal:- ./orbx-central-4.0.6.AppImage started Central splash screen with message "No Simulators Found" OR restarted the integration screen Running in the terminal:- gordon@gordon-LinuxMint:/media/gordon/X-P_Files$ sudo ./orbx-central-4.0.6.AppImage WORKED ONCE with the following messages (orbx-central:5151): libappindicator-WARNING **: 16:59:20.140: Unable to get the session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” (orbx-central:5151): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: 16:59:20.140: Unable to get session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” Re-running the above later resulted in a hung black screen label as Orbx Central I suspect that AppImage doesn't like the install path to the X-Plane installation on a mounted second disk. My Primary disk is too small to install X-Plane et al on the Primary to prove this (sorry) Kind regards Gordon After rebooting to get rid of the hung window the start menu entry has now disappeared but I can start Central with the terminal command gordon@gordon-LinuxMint:/media/gordon/X-P_Files$ sudo ./orbx-central-4.0.6.AppImage But again produces the following (orbx-central:2485): libappindicator-WARNING **: 17:27:33.824: Unable to get the session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” (orbx-central:2485): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: 17:27:33.824: Unable to get session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 Josh - Just to answer your second question - Yes I have the X-Plane WED AppImage residing in Home directory which works (double mouse click) and I used the program option to specify the path to X-Plane. Thanks & regards Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Josh Koz Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Hi Gordon, There a few things to break down here which may be correlated. The first of which would be the libappindicator warnings. By default, Orbx Central will minimise to the tray on close. In many flavours of Linux, including Mint Cinnamon, the tray is handled by libappindicator. When Orbx Central does successfully launch via terminal, do you see an Icon in your system tray? It's possible the Orbx Central hasn't completed exited and successive launches are trying to restore this process that still exists resulting in the black screen you're encountering. With regards to the Start Menu entry not working, I suspect this is an incorrect command set in the .desktop file. Can you find the .desktop file that has been created and check if the Exec= path points to the AppImage? The desktop file should be located within either the /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications directories. The command on the Exec= line is what is executed when clicking the start menu entry. You can copy and paste this line into and run it in the terminal to ensure it's correct. Let me know how you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hello Josh, Apologies for the delay in reply... I got rugby tackled by the grandchildren... Regarding your first paragraph; When Central 4.0.10 is run from the terminal as root and INSTALLED to the same (second) disk as X-Plane an icon IS present in the system tray and Central executes by finding X-Plane and operating normally. Error messages are reported as below: Running directly on second disk gordon@gordon-LinuxMint:~$ sudo ./orbx-central-4.0.10.AppImage [sudo] password for gordon: (orbx-central:4451): libappindicator-WARNING **: 12:29:40.185: Unable to get the session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” (orbx-central:4451): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: 12:29:40.185: Unable to get session bus: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:” Running Central from start menu icon produces no discernable activity. I did (however) get a black screen during the first attempt at running 4.0.10 as part of the initial install to the system disk, during that time the system tray icon WAS NOT visible. This laypersons feeling is that Central on installation is not picking up the location of X-Plane on a secondary disk and therefore goes into various fault situations. Regarding the second paragraph. Using Catfish I found appimagekit-orbx-central.desktop in usr/local/share/applications listed as follows [Desktop Entry] Name=Orbx Central Comment=Orbx’s all-in-one purchase and installation platform. Exec="/home/gordon/orbx-central-4.0.10.AppImage" %U Terminal=false Type=Application Icon=appimagekit-orbx-central StartupWMClass=Orbx Central X-AppImage-Version=4.0.10.1859 Categories=Utility; X-AppImage-BuildId=1PllSISOQ4NKvOV01l26O0z7Uqm X-Desktop-File-Install-Version=0.23 X-AppImage-Comment=Generated by /tmp/.mount_orbx-cTJ9ZZj/AppRun TryExec=/home/gordon/orbx-central-4.0.10.AppImage As suggested I cut and pasted the exec line into terminal - Central started and ended at the usual splash screen error message of Select Simulator we couldn't detect.....etc I tried editing the exec line to point to central appimage on the second disk but got the same result i.e. it ran but failed to find X-Plane but it could be me not doing something right. Again I feel that something in AppImage package is not searching for X-Plane correctly. Kind regards and your continued interest Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Have now tried Central version 13 and can no longer run Central as X-Plane simply is not found. I have tried as root, installed to X-Plane folder and using the menu option. Manual download installations seems to be the only way in Linux Mint 19.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Josh Koz Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Orbx Central tries to detect an X-Plane installation by looking first looking for the ~/.x-plane/x-plane_install_11.txt file. When X-Plane starts for the first time on a PC it will create this file. The contents of the file is the path to the X-Plane installation. $ cat ~/.x-plane/x-plane_install_11.txt /home/joshua/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/X-Plane 11/ If this file doesn't exist or the X-Plane binary doesn't exist at the path specified in the file Orbx Central won't be able to detect your X-Plane installation. You can manually create this file to work around this issue. We're adding some functionality into a upcoming update which will allow users to troubleshoot manually point Orbx Central at an X-Plane installation if it fails to find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Thanks for info - location of file on this computer is home/.x-plane/x-plane_install_11.txt and was not created by me. The contents of the txt file is; /media/gordon/X-P_Files/X-Plane 11/ which is the correct installed location To get version 13 to run I had to give in and permanently mount the disk (didn't want to do this as the drive will be relocated down the line hence mounting in media). It now is accessible by running the command ./orbx-central-4.0.13.AppImage in terminal but does not run from menu or double clicking - weird AppImage was set as root I changed this to the normal user permission. Looking forward to the update - Thanks & regards Gordon Hurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Josh Koz Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Hi Gordan, I don't think the disk would need to be permanently mounted, but will need to be mounted at the time Orbx Central is started so it can access that path to find the X-Plane installation. If you happen to change disks or mount to another location, the path inside the ~/.x-plane/x-plane_install_11.txt file will be automatically updated upon starting X-Plane. Orbx Central will read this file upon every launch to find the X-Plane install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Hello Josh - just for info I have set 2nd disk to automatically mount on startup. I have /home/gordon/.x-plane/x-plane_install_11.txt and the content is; /media/gordon/X-P_Files/X-Plane 11/ which is correct. Double clicking home/orbx-central-4.0.13.AppImage does not appear to run the app. Kind regards Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Josh Koz Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hi Gordon, Not sure what the cause is of the AppImage not launching when double clicked. I've created a task internally to try track down the cause of this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovercrafter Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Resolved My system disk was running out of space requiring a troll through the file system for things to delete. I found an Orbx folder in an unexpected location (in .cache... I think but not sure as I only found the result some time later) deleting the folder seems to have cleared the log jam and I can now run Central from the menu and by double clicking the AppImage which is located on the same secondary disk as X-Plane. Many thanks for your patience with me and your guidance which did help in finally tracking the issue of my faulty install/removal which I guess left shrapnel behind. Kind regards Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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