DTH Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I have the newest version of FTX Central and just download the new GB South. This is what I see over EGLL. If I understand the board my ini file is in the right order. I 1000 Version SCENERY SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_YBRM_Broome_Intl/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_B_GB_South_TrueEarth_Overlay/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/San Francisco Ferry Terminal v2.0/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Pilot Plus - Block Island V1.2/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Base Scenery/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/BR PE SNSG - Salgueiro Airport XP11 v1.0.0/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/CYBD Winter/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/BetiX - CZST_A_Overlay/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/BetiX - CZST_B/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_C_GB_South_TrueEarth_Orthos/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/BetiX - CZST_C_Mesh/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LondonVFR/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Nimbus Simulation - TFFJ - St Barts/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Nimbus Simulation -Z- St Barts Mesh/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/3D_people_library/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DTMB Monastir/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/BChelicopters next CYXX/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/khamsin_AGGM_Munda/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/khamsin_AGGN_Gizo/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/khamsin_KH01_Espiritu_Santo_Palikulo/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/khamsin_KH02_Barakoma/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/khamsin_KH03_Henderson/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/khamsin_Pacific_Islands/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KAVX - Catalina Airport/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Part 2 (Scenery library)/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/__MACOSX/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSFO A> Adapted/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KXTA_Scenery_Pack/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/NCMN Manuae/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KMSP - Minneapolis-St.Paul/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/OpenSceneryX Installer/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/RD_KHAF_Ortho/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/RD_KHAF_Airport/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_KACK_A_Nantucket_Memorial_Airport/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Descent2View_Chios_airport-LGHI/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LGMK Mykonos Airport/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LGMK Mykonos Island/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_KACK_C_remesh/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LGMK Mykonos Mesh/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/MisterX_Library/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_A_KVUO_Pearson_Field/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_KACK_B_Roads/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_B_KVUO_Pearson_Field_AGN/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KPHL_Scenery_Pack/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KRNO_Scenery_Pack/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_EGCB_A_Barton_Manchester_City/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aircraft-Static_and_Animated/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/OpenSceneryX/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_C_KVUO_Pearson_Field_roads/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_EGCB_B_Barton_Overlay/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/__GND_TRAFFIC_BANNER_TOW/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/__GND_TRAFFIC_GG_BRIDGE/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/__GND_TRAFFIC_SAN MATEO_BRIDGE/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/__GND_TRAFFIC_SF_BAY_BRIDGE/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/GOLDEN_GATE+SOUTH_BAY_150_XP-10/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KDEN_DENVER/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KLAX_v2 with 750 Animations/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_ENOV_A_Orsta_Volda/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/PHMK_PHLU_Northen_Sky_Studio/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_ENHA_A_Hamar_Flyplass/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDDF Frankfurt/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFPO Paris Orly/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWI Demo Area/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_L52_A_Oceano_County/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_A_2B2_Plum_Island_Airport/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_A_6B6_Minute_Man_Field/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_KCGX_A_Merrill_C_Meigs_Field/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KLAS Las Vegas Mc Carran/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Area/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_A_GB_South_TrueEarth_Custom/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ZZZ_Orbx_2B2_roads/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_KCGX_C_Overlay/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ZZZ_Orbx_KCGX_Merrill_C_Meigs_Field/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Carson_City_ortho_v100-1/ SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_iBY_Library/ How do I fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAgi Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Well, I did not arrive at EGLL yet but my departure airport Manston and my last stop Rochester look very similar. As the main problem seems to be the same (urban osm/autogen instead of airport buildings) I think this fits into this thread. My Scenery Packs.ini had the scenery order FTX Central suggested: SCENERY_PACK E:\Installationen\FlightSim\X-Plane 11\Custom Scenery\Orbx_B_GB_South_TrueEarth_Overlay/ ... SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/ SCENERY_PACK E:\Installationen\FlightSim\X-Plane 11\Custom Scenery\Orbx_A_GB_South_TrueEarth_Custom/ ... SCENERY_PACK E:\Installationen\FlightSim\X-Plane 11\Custom Scenery\Orbx_C_GB_South_TrueEarth_Orthos/ I tried putting the Orbx_A_GB_South_TrueEarth_Custom on top of everything (someone told me this could help) but this did not change the look of Rochester. Rochester: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Hello, I think this is already answered and to do with the airports not having exclusions. A solution is being sought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAgi Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Thank you for the answer. This means, if everything is right, the global airports should be visible instead but they don't have proper exclusions for the autogen buildings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I believe so and that this is to be addressed, by whom, I am not sure, the airports are default X Plane 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAgi Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Well... thank you once again. This information helped me to get most of the airport at least displaying the correct buildings, all TE-GB entries have to be below the global airports (FTX Central creates a mess in the scenery-packs.ini). As for the exclusion zones, I can easily fix them once I find an airport with clipping buildings. For fixing this globally there are two options: the gateway airports have to get fixed with exclusion zones (here there is a risk that a later airport from a different gateway artist could brake it again) the product ships with an exclusion layer which can be placed easily between the global airports and the main scenery layers And a third one is maybe too much of work, I don't know, but the double buildings could be removed from the corresponding scenery layer so there are no exclusion zones needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wroblewski Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The default airports need "facade" exclusion zones, they already have ones for objects etc. Hopefully we can get these submitted to LR for inclusion in X-Plane 11.30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAgi Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Sounds like an easy task to me... If I had a list of airports having this problem I could do this within some days I think. Not just drawing single squares, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litjan Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 For the picture of EGLL the OP posted I can assure you that it is a scenery layering problem in his Scenery_packs.ini. EGLL HAS exclusion zones for facades - I made it myself and have just doublechecked. The EGLL airport is NOT part of the "global airports" - it is this one: SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/ and should be above any South UK stuff to enable the exclusion zones working. The same goes for the SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/ entry - it should be ABOVE all South UK entries, otherwise the exclusion zones of those airports have no chance of suppressing the facades that come with South UK. The OP´s Scenery_packs.ini file is a mess - with no appearant order - and exclusion zones can only work on stuff BELOW. You basically want your .ini file organized with "custom airports" first, then "global airports", then all sorts of "overlay and general big area sceneries" then "libraries, installers, etc." X-Plane will simply dump anything you install on the top. Cheers, Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 3:12 AM, Litjan said: For the picture of EGLL the OP posted I can assure you that it is a scenery layering problem in his Scenery_packs.ini. EGLL HAS exclusion zones for facades - I made it myself and have just doublechecked. The EGLL airport is NOT part of the "global airports" - it is this one: SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/ and should be above any South UK stuff to enable the exclusion zones working. The same goes for the SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/ entry - it should be ABOVE all South UK entries, otherwise the exclusion zones of those airports have no chance of suppressing the facades that come with South UK. The OP´s Scenery_packs.ini file is a mess - with no appearant order - and exclusion zones can only work on stuff BELOW. You basically want your .ini file organized with "custom airports" first, then "global airports", then all sorts of "overlay and general big area sceneries" then "libraries, installers, etc." X-Plane will simply dump anything you install on the top. Cheers, Jan Jan I looked over the file a few times and seen videos. I still do not understand it. (old age I guess) There are about 88 lines. If you or someone would like to number them in the right order I will move them. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hello, that won't work because everyone's is different. I have been introduced to the Xorganiser which seems to make setting it up a little easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAgi Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Well... there is no need for scenery-packs.ini micromanagement. You just have to follow some simple rules: Make sure every addon airport is above Global Airports Make sure that all Mesh layers are at the bottom of the file and below Global Airports (HD-Mesh v4 or Ortho4xp if installed below other scenery meshes) Libraries are not important in most cases, just let them sit where they are as long as the designer does not tell you something else Larger non airport sceneries should be below Global Airports but above all the meshes - in many cases they still work fine if this is not the case, so there's no need to care for them as long as everything looks right So I suggest searching for all lines in your scenery-packs ini that have 'mesh' in them and put them all together to the bottom of the file. After sorting the meshes go for 'global airports' and put them on top of all the meshes. Then, for TrueEarth Great Britain collect the three entries and put them below Global Airports and put the London Landmarks on top: X-Plane Landmarks – LondonGlobal Airports Orbx_0_GB_South_TrueEarth_Exclusions (optional if installed, see this thread) Orbx_A_GB_South_TrueEarth_Custom Orbx_B_GB_South_TrueEarth_Overlay Orbx_C_GB_South_TrueEarth_Mesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzlercee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 12:51 AM, tonywob said: The default airports need "facade" exclusion zones, they already have ones for objects etc. Hopefully we can get these submitted to LR for inclusion in X-Plane 11.30. Even some third party airports require exclusions, normally facades (UK2000 EGBB) and sometimes objects (UK2000 EGKK). At EGKK I had a number of semi-detached UK houses appear within the airport, usually where the underlying image was a photo of a pitched roof building. These could only be removed with object exclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, FlyAgi said: Well... there is no need for scenery-packs.ini micromanagement. You just have to follow some simple rules: Make sure every addon airport is above Global Airports Make sure that all Mesh layers are at the bottom of the file and below Global Airports (HD-Mesh v4 or Ortho4xp if installed below other scenery meshes) Libraries are not important in most cases, just let them sit where they are as long as the designer does not tell you something else Larger non airport sceneries should be below Global Airports but above all the meshes - in many cases they still work fine if this is not the case, so there's no need to care for them as long as everything looks right So I suggest searching for all lines in your scenery-packs ini that have 'mesh' in them and put them all together to the bottom of the file. After sorting the meshes go for 'global airports' and put them on top of all the meshes. Then, for TrueEarth Great Britain collect the three entries and put them below Global Airports and put the London Landmarks on top: X-Plane Landmarks – LondonGlobal Airports Orbx_0_GB_South_TrueEarth_Exclusions (optional if installed, see this thread) Orbx_A_GB_South_TrueEarth_Custom Orbx_B_GB_South_TrueEarth_Overlay Orbx_C_GB_South_TrueEarth_Mesh for Orbx_C I have SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_C_GB_South_TrueEarth_Orthos/ No Mesh is this the same thiing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyAgi Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Yes - in this case the orthos are technically a mesh layer. This was my fault, the folder 'Orbx_C_GB_South_TrueEarth_Mesh' is named 'Orbx_C_GB_South_TrueEarth_Orthos' correctly. Anyway, if you just follow the order mentioned above, it should work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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