Graeme Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Hi guys, For some time now I have lost most of the buildings in my scenery, every where US EU Aus NZ etc., very odd indeed..Usually seen as flat black shapes. All other details show up OK including Aircraft My display is on a Matrox 3 screen set up at1280 x 1024 (3 x1), 32 bit 60 Hz I have tried using correct insertion points A point to note is that in the scenery library all of my Orbx etc. are listed but all of the original Microsoft folders are missing ( not showing) but the scroll down space and numbers are there. Some where a setting or two must be corrupted. I have had along break from the sim due to poor health and now that I have revisited it just want to fly low and slow over all of my magic Orbx locations and not start a fresh install Any help and wise ideas would be much appreciated. Many thanks Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperTNT Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Do you have the latest ORBX libraries installed? You can get them here. I've had this problem multiple times now where buildings don't show up because I did not have the latest libraries installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Hello Graeme, Sorry to hear you have had a rough patch with your health will try to help but no promises though, this is an unusual problem and sounds like it may need some surgery. (I may be out of my depth on this one, as far as how to remedy without FSX repair or reinstallation). It does not sound like a simple regfix. This is the first time I have heard of FSX being able to start effectively where these core folders are missing, let alone show Orbx scenery minus the stock library objects & autogen, they actually make up the base world upon which Orbx proudly displays. They obviously were there at one time, because you have been able to install Orbx and fly FSX in the past. Just to be sure are you saying that you are missing the core FSX Scenery Folders from your FSX scenery Library, as shown in the list below, but still see all of your Orbx FTX entries listed with a blank space below where the core folders should be listed. Have you checked for the existence of these folders in your FSX installation, located in your FSX root "Scenery" folder. Are the corresponding Texture folders present. Do you have a "scenery.cfg" located in C:\Users\{YourUsername}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX and are the core scenery folders listed. Have you moved your FSX installation from the original install location or if on a separate HDD did you move it to a new location at any time. Are you running your sim from the Administrator login. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Hi Graeme, Just a quick amendment to my last post, the actual location for the "Active" scenery.cfg is located in this folder C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX. Could you check this location instead of C:\Users\{YourUsername}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX Open it with notepad - check for all the core Folders/layers [Area.001] = Default Terrain - through [Area.120] = Edwards_AFB they should match the ones in the list above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Thank you Jeff and SniperNT, I will answer each item in point form 1. Yes I have the latest library 2. Yes I appeared to be missing the scenery folders as listed in your one above 3.The folders appear to be OK and most seem to have texture folders although I made random checks 4.I eventually found the scenery.cfg file All seem to be there and among other things there are a couple of back up's listed in the .cfg folder. I am very tempted to go back to one of these and see what happens. However I thought it would be prudent to seek you further advice before taking that step. It is wonderful that it is possible to go onto the forum with your problems and to receive an immediate response. Thank you both again Cheers, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Further to my above reply on close examination of the current scenery.cfg compared to some of the back up entries seem to be corrupted in that they often don't have a title= 0018 Base eg., [Area.009] Title= Local=Scenery\0004 Layer=9 Active=TRUE Required=True Original backup [Area.009] Title=0006 Base Local=Scenery\0006 Layer=9 Active=TRUE Required=False This type of change is rather common Your further advice please Cheers Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hi Graeme, Thanks for your report, on the status of the (active scenery.cfg) and the presence of the core folders. Just to confirm also, are we talking about (FSX-boxed version) or (FSX:SE DTG) I know little to naught about SE DTG version and its folder structure. 1. Yes I have the latest library Great you have this updated but does not quite explain why your core folders are invisible in the FSX Scenery library 2. Yes I appeared to be missing the scenery folders as listed in your one above Ok this confirms core Folders/files are not being loaded for some reason. or Have been deactivated by Administrator permission attributes. Could you right click your FSX installation folder and click Properties, then in General Tab uncheck the blue Attributes Read Only box > click Apply > click OK in the following dialog > wait for process to complete > click OK in Properties tab when finished. 3.The folders appear to be OK and most seem to have texture folders although I made random checks This is Good and shows that at least the folders are actually present. You are quite right not all these folders will have a Texture folder most only have a Scenery folder. 4.I eventually found the scenery.cfg file Excellent sorry bout that, reposted @4:07am when I realised I gave you the wrong location. All seem to be there and among other things there are a couple of back up's listed in the .cfg folder. I am very tempted to go back to one of these and see what happens. OK, well it appears that you have an active scenery.cfg containing all the layers for your core Folders, and you have still got your Core folders within the Scenery folder of your FSX installation. Try the Admin Permissions Read only Attributes process discussed above, but please don't use one of the backup scenery.cfg. as I have just read your #6 post while typing this, clearly the backup is corrupt and potentially the active one is corrupt as well. Would it be possible to copy then attach your scenery.cfg as zip or .txt or use the forum edit button "Special BBCode" "Media option" to copy in Notepad then paste the entire contents of your scenery.cfg exactly. I'll have a look through your scenery.cfg, see If I can find any error/s it may take me a little while to examine and compare will report back if it seems clear. Hopefully the permissions thing will get the entries resolved within your FSX Scenery library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hi Jeff, I am working with the boxed set. Followed your suggestion re attributes but made no change to display. Below is a copy of my scenery.cfg file for your comment,the only way I could find was to copy and paste it I look forward to your comments Cheers Graeme===================================================================================================================================================================== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Good grief Graeme, 511 scenery areas in one post! I have cut and pasted the entries into the scenery.cfg which I have zipped and attached to this post. scenery.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Thanks Nick, It was the best I could do with my limited computer skills as I was keen for Jeff to look at it Regards Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hello Graeme, It looks as if that scenery.cfg is entirely broken. I attach a default scenery.cfg file which you can download, unzip and rename to scenery.cfg. Then go to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX and copy and paste it into that folder, allowing it to overwrite the broken one that's there. You might also go to C:\Users\Your Name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX and your main FSX folder and copy the same scenery.cfg file into each location, again allowing it to overwrite the one that's there. Then go to ORBX\Scripts where you will find FTXConfigurator_OLC.exe. Right click on this and select Run as Administrator. Nothing much will be seen but it will add the OpenLC entries to the scenery.cfg. Then start FTX Central, select Global and click on Apply Group. This should write all the FTX entries into the scenery.cfg I have sent you. From there, you should be able to select whatever region you wish and the required entries will be added. This may not solve the missing buildings issue but it will sort out the scenery library. sceneryDEFAULT.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hi guys, For some time now I have lost most of the buildings in my scenery, every where US EU Aus NZ etc., very odd indeed..Usually seen as flat black shapes. All other details show up OK including Aircraft Are you trying to use DX10 mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hi Jeff, I am working with the boxed set. Followed your suggestion re attributes but made no change to display. Below is a copy of my scenery.cfg file for your comment,the only way I could find was to copy and paste it I look forward to your comments Cheers Graeme===================================================================================================================================================================== Hi Graeme, I'm inclined to agree with Nick, your scenery.cfg is totally broken. Having copied the text from your #8 post before Nick kindly condensed and zipped it up. I was well into looking through the contents of the 511 entries, only a small percentage of them were actually complete, every core entry including all your Orbx FTX entries were incomplete. FTX OLC entries were completely in the wrong order. There were so many other entries Addon's that usually reside above FTX & OZx that I was unable to determine what title to apply to them as I do not know their Folder names. Interestingly most of all if you look at the entries 378 onwards to 511 they are duplicate complete entries which actually include the Title line, of those found at position 121 onwards to position 252. Because the scenery.cfg is so large, and is corrupt in so many areas I have abandoned editing/correcting the format and missing entries, in favour of Nicks suggestion. I am struggling to find a reason for the missing entries in the Title= ? ???, line for nearly all entries in the scenery.cfg but a small few. At this stage I would go with Nick Cooper's recommendation in post #11. See how you go, it may require you to check any entries that are out of order with FTXCentral "Insertion Points", although FTXC should automatically rectify most if not all by cycling Global, Europe, North America, Oceania, clicking "Apply group" each time . (I have my fingers crossed for the best possible outcome) because, Rebuilding / Reinstalling is no fun at all. If this fails to recover your scenery.cfg in a way that resolves your other missing elements, ie; your topic title "Unable To See Buildings In Most Of My Scenery Areas" then there may be corruption elsewhere in your FSX setup. It may well be time to think seriously about rebuilding your sim. Please let me know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hi Doogles, No , still with the old version Cheers Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Jeff and Nick, I methodically followed the steps you each outlined AND Yes I have buildings every where. I have only tested a couple of locations US and AU. I will continue trying other location but on the evidence the problem seems to be fixed. Congratulations are in order to you both. I will keep you posted as to how I am going How do the files eg., scenery.cfg get so corrupted for future reference? Thanks also to the Forum which enabled this to happen Cheers and many thanks, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Very good news indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hi Graeme, That is brilliant news indeed, couldn't be happier for you. Credit to Nick his suggestion was a life saver. Hope things continue on a positive from now on. As to the reason for the corruption, (this is just my opinion) quite possibly one of the other Addon sceneries (non Orbx of course) that you have installed that utilised an installer may have failed to correctly write the new entries completely to your scenery.cfg before making a backup. Most likely why the Title= lines were not applied to the many duplicate entries, and there they stayed to cause your buildings problem. The scenery.cfg in its correct format and ordering is an extremely important part of displaying every element in the Sim. One thing I would like to suggest for peace of mind, once you are satisfied all is well, is a backup of all your critical sim folders and the FSX main folder, that way recovery will be less traumatic if corruption occurs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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