Jack the Swede in Spain Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ok, I´m giving myself a christmas present, a new Graphics Card. Today I´m using a AMD Radeon HD 6970 that in fact works very well, even with P3D but............... I am a ATI fan so please, NO NVIDIA suggestions. The prize is not an issue. Suggestions. Jack the Swede in Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ok, I´m giving myself a christmas present, a new Graphics Card. Today I´m using a AMD Radeon HD 6970 that in fact works very well, even with P3D but............... I am a ATI fan so please, NO NVIDIA suggestions. The prize is not an issue. Suggestions. Jack the Swede in Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavn Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Hi Jack, I understand that the best of the best today is the AMD R9 290X: in comparation with the Titan, the 290X is mostly the winner;after that comes the AMD R9 290 (without X): in comparation with the GTX780, the 290 is mostly the winner.See (however in Dutch) this review: http://tweakers.net/reviews/3303/11/amd-r9-290-het-kleine-broertje-van-conclusie.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLonger Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Hi Jack, I understand that the best of the best today is the AMD R9 290X: in comparation with the Titan, the 290X is mostly the winner; after that comes the AMD R9 290 (without X): in comparation with the GTX780, the 290 is mostly the winner. See (however in Dutch) this review: http://tweakers.net/reviews/3303/11/amd-r9-290-het-kleine-broertje-van-conclusie.html But in comparison with the GTX780Ti the Ti is the winner. And so this will go on and on LOL All I know is that there are various problems with the current R9 290X: fans not working properly and hence performance that can be different with every card. I suppose ATI will get it fixed sometime (well, maybe not if you got one of those cards with a faulty fan!) but I woudn't buy a new ATI right now, at least now if you want the top model. I will probably get a GTX780 and not the Ti because the differences are to small to justify the difference in price. The same might go for the R9 290X so you might be better off with ATI's 2nd best car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The best graphics car is the one that suits your needs, your MoBo and it's data throughput ability, Other supporting infrastructure. It IS that simple we could sit here and bandy about figures and performance capacity but if you don't have sufficient power in the MoBo CPU and memory then it won't matter how bolldy good the graphics card is in theory. I would go for a card that is maybe a few down for the top performance ladder as they are usually more stable and as in the case of my 7970 a second generation and considerable better than the original, so in closing do not be suckered by performance figures and or video presentations on you tube etc this video is generally that passed directly from the rendering engine to the capture software and has little bearing on the actual quality on screen. How a particular card works with all the other hardware around it is the key. Lets thing about a performance engine for a moment. OK We have a forged billet crank, forged Pistons, quality valve train components, top shelf heads, and a garden variety generic fuel Injection system. the result is a poor quality output, and you PC is exactly the same despite what many PC Component supply Stores will tell you (remember they want to sell parts - and stay away from store-bought PC's as well) research various forums for gaming and have a look as the hardware various gamer's are using when you build a PC you MUST build it with future expansion in mind true BUT you must also build it with component compatibility and data handling in mind also. If the next component in the chain of flow cannot handle what is is being given then things like buffer underruns and OOM's start occuring as the system attempts to compensate. Microstutter's are a prime example of a system right on the edge of it's performance envelope regarding data throughput. From the SSD's HDD's all the way through the PC MUST work as a whole just like a performance engine and if it doesn't then your wasting both time and money. And one of the biggest performance killer's is people using PSU's that are not up to the task by either borderline in quality for voltage and ripple regulation etc or insufficient power delivery. IMHO don't argue when building a PC buy a 1000 Watt modular PSU and be done (Just because it is 1K does not mean that your Power bill will go up as the supply will only give what is demanded by the system but will do so reliably for many years if kept clean and will then see that PC being powered for a minimum of 5 years with expand-ability to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdelphinus Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 R9 290x but it seems like the current models can be a bit problematic. Might be worth waiting a bit for some more developed models. Why be a 'fan' of one particular maker of silicon though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi518 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Titan... the latest and best AMD isn't worth it without proper water cooling, which means yo have to shed quite a lot more money once you realize it's impractical to run an oven under your desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the Swede in Spain Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 Thanks guys. Think I´ll wait until spring 2014 and see what´s coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I am thinking of getting a GTX 760 2gig as my current card has expired. The price seems to have come down ( I don't want to spend megabucks as the price of the new cards seems to tumble not long after release ). Thoughts all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_66 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Obviously the GTX 690 is the fastest GPU available. Like it or not. Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcdtmd Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I had a new rig built about two years ago by CyberPower with the AMD Radeon 7970-3Gb graphics card & not a glitch or stutter to date. It's exceeded the needs of any game or sim so far. I used to be a NVIDIA guy all the way, but had several problems with them in the past 5 or 6 years. Three NVIDIA cards burned out or failed and one never worked from day one. I decided to give it a go with AMD Radeon and nothing but smooth sailing so far. I'm a convert. I liked Wildweasel's advice, maybe don't go with the latest so called greatest. Great performance, but tried and tested can't be beat. TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I liked Wildweasel's advice, maybe don't go with the latest so called greatest. Great performance, but tried and tested can't be beat. TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavn Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I had a new rig built about two years ago by CyberPower with the AMD Radeon 7970-3Gb graphics card & not a glitch or stutter to date. It's exceeded the needs of any game or sim so far. I used to be a NVIDIA guy all the way, but had several problems with them in the past 5 or 6 years. Three NVIDIA cards burned out or failed and one never worked from day one. I decided to give it a go with AMD Radeon and nothing but smooth sailing so far. I'm a convert. I liked Wildweasel's advice, maybe don't go with the latest so called greatest. Great performance, but tried and tested can't be beat. TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M31 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Obviously the GTX 690 is the fastest GPU available. Like it or not. Spirit Its not http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-780-vs-GeForce-GTX-690 I guess you have a GTX -690 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_66 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Its not http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-780-vs-GeForce-GTX-690 I guess you have a GTX -690 No I have not! Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M31 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 No I have not! Spirit Good for you, trying to be the best or fastest is one very expensive pastime Merry Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_66 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Good for you, trying to be the best or fastest is one very expensive pastime Merry Christmas. My principle is: "better is the enemy of what is good" Merry Christmas Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M31 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Good for you. My principle is to go for the best in my price target range that suits the software I use it for, with FSX still being my main use its a no brainer to stay with Nvidia just now and for the foreseeable next 2 years at least. As prepar3D V2 is built upon FSX code I don't see that changing much with a few extra shaders and tricks ... but there does seem to be much better results with FSX and ATI these days I do admit. One thing ATI were always good at is the use of multiple monitor usage out of the box if thats? your thing, but since the Nvidia 6** series their cards for a single card have been able to do same too. Your mileage may vary. I'll never worship a silicon chip by name or creed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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