jfwharton

After the update installed for version 4.1.41 the discovery map is messed up. When I left click on the map to drag it the map stays stationary and the airports move. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the latest version but still have the issue.

Thank you very much for that information. I will give it a try.

Thank you for your response. It's just very disappointing that Orbx has done it this way. I liked the way it worked before when I could manually download the files and then when reinstalling could point central to the file location. The older system was better, at least for me. So now in order to get a backup I have to uninstall all of my Orbx scenery and turn on the automatic backup and then reinstall. There should be the ability when turning on the backup to check if the files are already installed and then download the files and save them to the backup area. But it's the way it is.

This month I had issues with one of my flight simulators and uninstalled and then reinstalled my scenery files multiple times. Needless to say by the end of this month I am near my download limit from my internet provider. Recently, I forget how long ago Orbx changed the way Central downloads and eliminated the ability to download the files from orbxdirect and save them to my hard drive so if I needed to reinstall them I could point central to that file location and install it. but I can't do that any more. So how do I backup my files manually to say an external hard drive and then point an installation to that backup to install? I see an option to automatically backup my Orbx files but there is no manual backup that I can find.

I tried uninstalling 5.2, cleaned out files, installed 5.1, same issue. Uninstalled 5.1, deleted files in program data, and appdata for v5, installed 5.2. Same issue. So something changed somewhere with my system and I have no idea what since I don't fly P3D all the time. I just tried a flight from KORS to KFHR and the simulator is unusable. All I know is a few weeks ago when I purchased True Earth Florida and installed it I did not have any issues. It was smooth. So I have Simstarter NG P3D set up with profiles but am just going to run P3D with Orbx base and vector and leave everything else unchecked in my scenery library. I give up! This will have to wait for a wipe and reload of windows I guess. No issue with any other games. Just P3D for some reason. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. Just with something worked.

Thank you for that information. I don't know if it's the areas I like to fly in but I like to fly in mountainous areas and also use the Pilot's Ultimate mesh. Maybe that has something to do with my issue.

Unfortunately the DSR thing wasn't working 100 percent. So back to Sinstarter NG P3D and profiles. So far I have had to stop using the regional sceneries like Southern and Northern California and any airports that require the regional sceneries. But I have been able to use profiles for the OpenLC regions. What is strange is I don't remember having this issue until I upgraded to P3D v5.2. I have been flying in southern California and the Pacific Northwest and didn't notice the issue or if I did it wasn't as bad. I may remove 5.2 and go back to 5.1.

So that would mean that I would need to purchase another monitor? What I'm doing right now it setting up profiles in simstarter ng to limit the scenery in my scenery library for any one flight. I will see how that goes. If that doesn't work out it does work out by having only base and vector installed along with all my non-Orbx payware. I do thank you for your suggestions but they all involve spending a lot of money so for now I'll stick with what I have. As I mentioned before if it doesn't work out I will just scrap P3D for now, uninstall the simulator and all scenery and aircraft and wait until I upgrade my system and then try P3D again. Edit. That does give me an idea of setting up DSR for 2x in my nvidia control panel and switching to that when flying p3d and setting p3d to 2x as well. We will see how that goes.

Thanks for the link but I will not purchase an AMD processor. So I'll stick for now with what I have.

I didn't mean to sound offended and realize you are trying to help. I have put about $5,000 into this tower and at the present time don't feel like spending another $1,000 or more. I don't believe in chasing software upgrades, at least not routinely. Normally I just put up with things until they reach the point where I just have a new system built. What amazes me is how well FS2020 performs on my system without the hiccups. I will most likely follow John Dow's advice and look away when the little stutters occur. But also I will most likely remove the burdensome scenery and go back to the P3D default or at least base and vector. I had just purchased True Earth Florida for P3D and wish I hadn't. What seems to be the real culprit is the OS itself. Every time MS updates the OS it brings it the system one step closer to having to be upgraded or replaced. What I really should have done a long time ago is disable windows update. Oh well.

Why are you even asking that? My system is 4 years old and I have no intention in upgrading a cpu, motherboard, etc just for this flight simulator. I just tried P3D v4.5 and I have the issue there but not as bad as with P3D v5.2. I'll either live with it or trash P3D and entirely and fly FS2020 (which I run without any issues on ULTRA settings) and X Plane 11. Thank you for your assistance.

Well thank you for your response. If I'm wasting my time then it's time to stop this and move on. I will remove my Orbx scenery and fly without it and go back to X Plane 11 and FS 2020. I have had issues with P3D since I first purchased version 4 and then version 5. Always had stutters even when my system was first built and P3D had a clean install. I guess P3D is just not worth the effort on my part at this time. Thank you.

So is what I'm doing a waste of time? If so I may just as well go back to what I did before, just disable all of my Orbx scenery and then things work OK? I'm confused.

Well I just started to get the stuttering after loading a few items. One of those is Aspen Extended which of course is close to Orbx KEGE. I'll try to remove vector and see if that helps.

OK thank you for that information. So far I went in and unchecked all addons except for aircraft and all scenery except for the default. Flew the route KDEN to KEGE and no issues using your settings. Have started checking things again several at a time to try to identify what is causing the issue. So this will take a while. Thanks again.

Where would I uncheck global base in the scenery library? Just want to do some testing. I have installed firmware updates on my SSD drives and configured the d rive for P3D v5.2 for rapid mode. Also turned on Game Mode. Those things seem to have helped a little but still getting frame drops. For example I do a flight from KDEN to KEGE. KDEN, BJC, RLG and then do the ILS to runway 25 starting at RLG. When I do the left turn at RLG I get a slight frame drop but when I approach the ILS course at 13,000 feet I start getting bigger drops and after the right turn onto the localizer as I approach KEGE I sometimes get a drop to 0 for a moment. Seems to be coinciding with scenery loads.

I will try the suggestions provided but don't want to spend days testing. The issue I am having in P3D, both in V4.5 and v5.2 does not happen in X Plane 11 or in MSFS 2020. In rural areas I get over 60 fps and in dense areas typically 30 plus but what seems to be happening is either something that I have not been able to yet determine is running in the background causing a bottleneck so to speak. The frames drop, sometimes to zero, I get stuttering and then the issues clears, frames back to normal and then it repeats. I have my anti virus settings set to exclude scanning files in the P3D directories, HiFi directories, Addonmanager directories and everything else I can think of. But when I disable all of my Orbx scenery and run the simulator maxed out I have steady frames and do not see the issue. So I will continue to try to identify what is causing the issue on my system. As I mentioned above, I have run stress tests using OCCT and maxed out my CPU, GPU, VRAM, Memory, power supply each for one hour and there were no issues noted and I did not see any overheating issues. So I'm just a bit frustrated with this and will most likely just leave the Orbx scenery disabled for now so I can enjoy P3D and gradually turn things back on in an attempt to determine at what point the issue returns. Thank you again for your suggestions. I just wish it were easier to identify these sorts of issues.

Thanks for the information. My system is liquid cooled for the CPU and I have run stress tests on all of the hardware maxing out the CPU, GPU, RAM, VRAM etc and everything check out, no abnormalities with the hardware. The testing you are suggesting is just not going to happen. If it doesn't run properly then I will be removing the Orbx scenery and running P3D with the default.

Well if it's an issue with the I7 7700 CPU then my best bet is to leave all of my Orbx scenery disabled. Thank you for your input. With the Orbx scenery disabled I can run with everything maxed out and not have any frame drops. But I will try reinstalling the Orbx scenery I removed and adjust my settings to what you provided and see what that gives me.

Thanks for your inputs. I am already using settings much lower that those you posted. Even at settings lower than you are using I am still getting drops. Not as bad as when I had everything loaded. So I will continue to experiment. So far my best experience has been with all of my Orbx scenery disabled. I am running an I7 7700 4.2 GHz processor, 32G RAM, GTX 1080 Ti 11G video card running on SSD drives.

So I just uninstalled 8 Orbx regions for NA and true earth and 50 airports/sceneries and will give this a try. I left the Base, Vector, OpenLC's and AU Austrailia and New Zealand north and south.

Well I tried a profile where I disabled the default P3D scenery. Things looked OK but still had the frame drop.

For a long time I have been frustrated with P3D and my frames going intermittently to zero during a flight. I've looked through threads and there are so many suggestions it's mind boggling. I had used Simstarter NG when I was using FSX to get better frames but even then my frames didn't go down to zero for a few seconds. So today I purchased Simstarter NG P3D for my P3D v4.5 and v5.2. I set up a couple of configurations but still had the issue. I have Orbx Base, Vector, all the Open LC's, all of the NA series, True Earth Florida, along with Australia V2 and North and South New Zealand as well as a bunch of airports. I tried a configuration where I disabled all scenery outside of North America and still have the issue with frames going to zero during a flight. I finally tried disabling all Orbx scenery leaving my addon airports (not Orbx) and plugins and finally got a smooth flight even with everything maxed out and checked in the P3D settings for v5.2. Before I was using the recommended settings for P3D listed in the user guides but decided to see how it performed with no Orbx scenery and everything maxed out. I was pleasantly surprised. But I don't want to stop using all of the Orbx scenery I paid so much for. So where do I go from here? Can I, for instance, disable all scenery outside of the area I want to fly in, say North America as well as all of the default P3D scenery? Is that possible or would some areas not display correctly. I would like to be able to fly in general areas, North America, South America, Asia, Oceania, Europe. I've tried lowering my settings but have come to the conclusion that my issue is related to how much is enabled in my scenery library. So again looking for a path so I can fly in the areas I mentioned and not have my frames drop intermittently to zero. Thanks for any suggestions. I'll be trying some tweaks in Simstarter NG P3D.

Thanks. I was just going to post that when I enabled Pacific Fjords the PAPI came back. I'll make that change. Thanks again!

I was just going to post screenshots but mine agree with yours. I see the same trees hanging in the air as well. So at least I'm not along. I disabled all Orbx scenery and the PAPI's are gone. Screenshot attached. So now I"m going to enable things to see where the PAPI show up.