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Nice one my friend, please let us know how you get on with it, over the moon pleased with my AMD 5950X and latest build, its a pleasure to fire up this rig and play my sims at max detail, even bought some games I'm not really into gameplay wise to test my rig at 4K, stuff like Crysis Remastered at full settings and more ... I'm good to go for another 3 years at least am sure :) And so will you be. Enjoy.

Hi Donka, when first fired the rig up, my only indication of the CPU temp was in the BIOS, it reported about 39 C when idling, ouch, but as always when installing a new CPU and good thermal compound, it goes down a bit quite fast, not looked at what the BIOS says lately ... but truly on my Corsair AOI 360, and it says it idles at about 26 c ... made an adaptive profile for this cooling, a sort of aggressive one and a more moderate one ... and when flying FS2020 at full pelt on aggressive profile, its just whooosh outside of the case, obviously the CPU is getting a good workout in this sim and I'm actually very happy to see that, my case fan in and out is working, but even in quieter less aggressive mode, with my cooling solution, its all OK, maybe a little hotter than my I7 8700K de-lidded CPU @ 5GHz on all 6 cores ... this AMD CPU is 16 cores and with AMD's HT a virtual 32, it can get hot, even on its 7nm process, but well within its parameters. Its fine IMHO. Have got the fan speeds and pump speed tamed now, its OK, you can still hear the system ramp up a bit, but if you listen carefully, but its all quite safe, mostly a headphone flyer, so no worry Very happy at every thing I've thrown at it so far

Just a bit of feedback on this new rig ... absolutely delighted, over the moon, really am I know an RTX 3090 24 GB and the Ryzen 9 5950X is overkill, 64 GB cas 16 3600 MHz for fine tuning still, too ,,, and its probably still just one click away in bios for the best XMP ram profile still, really don't want to go over-clocking the CPU yet, but it was my time to upgrade again from a brand new Intel I7 8700K, 32 GB, Nvidia Titan X 12 GB card ... killer spec back then, paid extra to OcUK for a cherry picked I7 8700K and got them to delid it for me, rock stable at 5Ghz on all six cores ... got to hand it to them for that, 360 AOI cooler too ... its now my second rig and still going strong. This new build though, can see the improvements already in various Flight sims as I install them, other day installed old FSX and Acceleration pack and threw all my Orbx and other add ons at it again too, its never loaded quicker ... Use Steves DX 10 fixer too, but its much much faster/smoother now with everything for it installed ... 32 bit app too, amazing much faster it loads. Goes without saying have the new FS2020 sim installed again, max settings applied and at 4K, seems smooth to me, very pleased here Next up to install is DCS and all the goodies I've bought for this this sim too , its gonna be fine, this is one sim that got near 32 GB ram limits, hence why I went for 64 GB this time, seen FS2020 do this too a couple of times in 4K. This new build of mine took a bit of careful thought and also a couple of changes in spec before it came to fruition, and appreciate the great advice given here, its all worked out really really stably well so far ... Thanks all. For anyone hesitating on adding a new AMD CPU to a new Nvidia GPU build ... its fine, don't know about the new AMD GPU's? Once I got my NV RTX3090 24GB ... I stopped looking, but do know my NV Inspector profiles quite well, it would have been a challenge going to AMD for a GPU this time ... sure it would be fine, but would take time for the GPU drivers to mature too ... I know my NV Inspector settings extremely well and how to tweak I'm over the moon how this build has turned out. Thanks to all that helped me choose my parts, its been a good thread and discussion.

Late last night, finally updated my new Asus Crosshair VIII Hero's board BIOS to its latest one, sanitary cleaned the NVME OS drive and shut down the PC, then removed the temp AM4 Ryzen 2600 CPU I bought at start of this project to test with while waiting for an AMD 5950X CPU to arrive ... cleaned up the Corsair AOI's heatsink in readiness and waited for DPD this morning, LOL CPU arrived about 1PM in afternoon my time in N Scotland, was ready to go though and had preprepared PC awaiting the CPU and fresh thermal compound and had it fired up in less than 15 mins later ... its always a concern when plugging in a new expensive CPU, especially since I've not properly used AMD in over a decade, it all went OK though, fired up first time as expected, screen said hit F1, but that's normal, it just needed to be told what was happening, set everything to default for now, fine tuning comes later and gradually, then went on to install Win 10, pretty much there now and almost ready to start installing my Flight Sims again. Can see its already a seriously quick CPU the way its sailed through everything in Win 10 fresh install, but the real test will be in the testing of the Simulations I love and seeing this CPU in conjunction with the NV RTX 3090 GPU, 64 GB ram etc come together. I think the AMD 5950X and Zotac RTX 3090 will be a good match. Scan were good in the backlog thing, keeping early order folk updated, my CPU arrived today with free good quality thermal compound and a free mask as well, also last night they sent me a code for a free download of Far Cry 6 game I think it was? Christmas came early for me Hope you all get your parts you need for the new builds.

Thanks, will do, hope you get your GPU soon.

My AMD Ryzen 5950X CPU arriving tomorrow from Scan (I hope) the final part of my new build at last, hope its a golden sample :) Was sent a download code for Far Cry 6 as well, not really my style of game but I'll install it for a look at the Ray Tracing tech I guess. Happy Days :)

Still stuck at position 40 for my Ryzen 3950X, they were coming to them fast and furious for a while and I came down to 40 from 219 quite fast, but I really do not know when I get the new CPU now? very frustrating, done a motherboard change already and I dont have the CPU I intended to use with it yet, that's crazy !!! Glad I bought the S/H AMD 2600 to check out the build, will keep it and the MSI X570 board as spares in case anything goes pear shaped in the future, my other gear is all Intel, so good to have spares I guess. The new Asus Crosshair VIII Hero X570 arrived from Scan this morning, have it fitted now and decided to do my final cable tidying as well (Tidy for me LOL) Its a much better featured board than my MSI Tomahawk was, have a spare PCIE slot available now too and use of my SBZ soundcard I prefer once more, very pleased, but will be delighted when my 5950X CPU arrives, it will be a quick swap over once its here. Thanks for pointers on the 4 pin extra CPU power socket, dug out my Superflower 1000W PSU box and fitted it anyway, figured it would do no harm, love this new ASUS board though, 5 SATA SSD drives plugged in, 3 SATA Mechanicals for back up and a dedicated music drive, the OS NVME M.2 drive on PCIE 4.0 as well, its very quick already with the 2600 CPU in general task work, chomping at the bit for the 5950X to really see what this build can do in Flight Sim.

Couple of more questions as the final build gets nearer. This new Asus board and indeed the current MSI Tomahawk board, they have an extra 4 pin power socket, often called a CPU1 socket (I think) that sits beside an extra 8 pin socket at top left of most motherboards, looking at my current Super Flower 1000 W PSU, and because its modular I only plugged in exactly enough cables as was needed for my last Intel build, pretty sure original PSU box is up in the loft and will have those extra modular cables, for sure there a couple of empty modular PSU sockets just now ... but my question is, since my last Intel 8700K delidded that was quite heavily clocked never needed it ... or had socket on board for that, would this AMD build need it, are they really optional as I've heard? More importantly, would it harm my new build if I managed to find my 2 or 3 year old Superflower 1000 W PSU box in the attic and use it? I doubt it, but need to be sure. Also, if I cant locate the old original PSU box and that extra 4 pin cable is not in it ... well, it seems to me even PSU cables have modular commonility these days, should be able to buy one somewhere soon pretty quick for final build I have a feeling will be happening in next week or so Thanks.

OK, settled on that board, ordered it from Scan who have them in stock just now ... £390 delivered but love the boards specs, seems perfect for me, the Dark Hero, who knows how long that will land in UK, did a quick burst of research and there are not a lot of differences, if I were to go into Uber clocking, some parts of the Dark Hero might be better but apparently this board is overkill for even mild overclocking and I have already decided there will be no overclocking on this build, its just not AMD's CPU way for general public, they are fast enough already? This board has the exact features I need and want. Half thought about ... and since this is from Scan where I'm awaiting my Ryzen 5960X CPU from, heh, half thought about asking them to throw me a 5960X CPU early to save on postage with board too, am very close in queue now and I don't cheat, its all coming together soon now. Yay Good review of this new motherboard here, will not be doing RGB stuff, hate it, but some times the very good boards that have it. give an option to turn off

I dont think the dark Hero is gonna be available for a bit? What about this board? https://www.ebuyer.com/899211-asus-x570-rog-crosshair-viii-hero-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-rog-crosshair-viii-hero

I like this board a lot, are they on sale yet in UK? I have very good AOI cooling for the CPU installed already, its working fine, not touching the new RTX 3090 stock cooling situation for now. Thanks

Or this one, in all fairness to Asus, my main current Gaming rig with an overclocked Asus gaming board (was my FS PC) with my I7 8700K delidded etc has been running full pelt for 3 years or so at 5GHz, very very reliable board. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-amd-am4-ddr4-x570-chipset-atx-motherboard-mb-6dv-as.html

ASRock boards seem to have a good reliability and reputation these days, what about their boards, this one perhaps? Seems to have everything I need. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-x570-taichi-amd-x570-am4-ddr4-pcie-40-triple-m2-2-way-sli-3-way-crossfire-intel-gbe-wifi-usb

This board? Looks OK mate, but I need 8 SATA onboard ports. On 64GB now here too, heard about RAM disks before, always meant to try it some day, will get back to you on this https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master-amd-x570-am4-ddr4-pcie-40-triple-m2-2-way-sli-crossfire-25g-gbe-wifi-usb

And on top of this all, at this late stage, have decided I don't like my MSI MAG X570 WI FI board now, for most folk it would be fine, but in order to use it the way I intend to for the next 3 years I had to lose a PCI-e slot because of new Nvidia Zotac RTX 3090 card blocking it off dimension wise, this board only has 6x SATA ports and I needed one M2 NVME slot and the 6 SATA ports and also 2 more SATA ports for back up drive HD's that meant adding another PCIe card for this, also have lots of FS USB perhiphs and more coming soon too ... powered USB hubs can become overwhelmed, have 12 of the original Saitek FIP LCD gauges and also one USB port on a PC can only communicate reliably with so many USB devices, even on good quality USB powered hubs and USB 3.1 .... so needed another PCIe slot used up for an external SATA 3 ports at the back of case ... this left me having to lose my dedicated PCIe soundcard, a Creative Labs Soundblaster Z ... that for all its weaknesses at a driver level I happen to know inside out know, really inside out. I tried to make this Motherboards Realtek onboard sound work, but for what I do and my music passion ... borderline DJ stuff elsewhere and the need for Stereo Mix at times, cant get it to work to my ear and others the way it was before, so need a PCIe slot back again for my Soundblaster Z card. Also, good as this MSI motherboard is, it has no onboard boot LCD that could give me an indication if it ever did go wrong, having wrote that though, can count on 2 fingers of one hand in my life when I ever had to use a boards onboard LCD display to show a code for diagnoses purpose, I do miss a remote clear BIOS button though at back of case for fine tuning, this board has no such thing and if you populate all the boards card slots it means you need to pull the bottom card to manually short two jumpers and that's not handy at all. When the Ryzen 5950X CPU arrives, can see me doing that a lot to get the RAM fine tuned, not worried about overclocking the CPU, maybe in the future. This is a very good MSI motherboard, and have owned higher end MSI motherboards before, but since I've spent so much on this build so far, good 64GB tight timing ram, Nvidia RTX 3090 GPU and AMD Ryzen 5950X CPU perhaps a week away, maybe I should bling on a better Motherboard too for same future proofing? So with my criteria in mind and new X570 motherboards have come out fast and furious since I bought the Tomahawk, what would you buy now in my situation motherboard wise for an AMD Ryzen 5950X and Nvidia RTX 3090? Need that extra PCIe slot for my Soundblaster card that works so well for me, LOL. On board WI Fi is essential too for somes apps I use on my Ipad. Need those 8 SATA ports, at least one M.2 port too.

Yup, been hearing all sorts of rumours, one was that AMD were shipping in CPU's and perhaps the new GPU's and the situation at UK sea ports is a bit desperate, some cargo ships having to wait before they can unload cargo, flying in small part stock like CPU and GPU parts would have helped, but same problems at airports there too and I guess this is why a lot of us are waiting for new PC parts for our various upgrades? I guess all of this has to go through Customs, am a scale modeller as a side hobby and had a couple of kits ordered from abroad you cant buy here and they were stuck at customs for weeks on end before they were cleared, back when Covid-19 restrictions first kicked in , the days when we were all struggling to buy toilet roll and suchlike! Is this the new normal, maybe? Nvidia were in same situation too with their new GPU launch, but because they were launched a good bit earlier than the AMD stuff, they are catching up a little now ... the sooner this Covid curse is over the better, for many reasons more than our PC upgrades too, just not the best of situations at all in any area of life ... stay safe everyone. We'll get there in the end.

Email from Scan today, they never got as large an amount of Ryzen 5950X CPU's they were expecting at the weekend, but I'm now at position 40 for one, from 211 that was 219 on launch day at launch time, they are expecting more this week, but if that falls through their next batch due is on Dec 7th ... I'm getting there, build will be finished for Christmas I'm quite confident about that now. RTX3090 is still running sweet, not been using this rig much, Just firing it up occasionally to test utility software and do cable tidying and suchlike ... lucky to have my old parts I7 8700K Titan X 12GB Pascal as a second rig for now, the new AMD CPU and RTX3090 will be my main FS PC though and really looking fwd to that Ryzen 5950X CPU arriving and formatting one last time and installing my Sims afresh. Good times for sure.

Thanks Have it plugged in now as a sort of dress rehearsal for when the new CPU arrives, then once that's fitted and case is cable tidied ETC will reformat the OS (even though it would be fine with the temp AM4 2600 CPU) and start the long process of installing and tuning my fave FS programs again ... I'm getting withdrawal symptoms already and FS rig has only been stripped down a week to put the new motherboard and cooler in the tower ... this RTX 3090 is gigantic, if the case was any smaller it would not fit length wise, its also blocking off a valuable PCI-E slot because of its width/depth, so had to decide between losing PCIE soundcard, PCIE extra SATA card or PCIE extra USB 3 card for my FS periphs, decided on losing the Soundblaster SBZ PCIE card and go onboard sound for first time in my life, its not bad, will give it a fair trial and if I cant get on with it consider a different motherboard with more onboard SATA ports, 8 would do. Pic of it here beside my Titan X Pascal 12GB card and that is quite a large card. Its all coming together nicely. The 3090 is running fine though, not stressed it yet, fitted it in case more to make sure it was not DOA, runs quite cool, very happy with it, its gonna have to do me 3 years at least, just like the last one ... my days of yearly PC hardware upgrades are long over ! Heard there were not many of the new AMD GPU's available, hope you get one soon.

Arrived, Yodels tracking is awful though, its still saying its at Argyll, called Ebuyer this morning who were very helpful, even refunded my £14 postage that I never asked for and they could see on their system it was due for delivery today, ... how on earth Yodel's own CS cant use same system too is a mystery? but there ya go, was getting myself into a right Tizzy, LOL Hopefully Scan come good on those reported 5950X CPU's due any time now, according to the amount they are getting I should be comfortably in that batch ... fingers and toes crossed here

My Nvidia RTX 3090 Zotac is lost, MIA Ebuyer sent it by Yodel on Friday and I shuddered when I saw that, read some terrible things about them, Saturday morning tracking showed to was at their (Yodel's) warehouse in Argyll and due for delivery Tuesday (Yesterday), however Yesterday morning tracking had still not changed and still hasn't, contacted Yodel on web chat, they said they will do a warehouse search and after 24 hrs if tracking not changed to call Ebuyer, checked this morning, tracking has not updated, onto web chat again and talked with someone more switched on who said yesterdays agent gave wrong info! and that it can take 24/48 hrs for a search, so I've to be on tenterhooks for another day now, £1600 worth ... argh, would not be surprised if its been stolen given things I've heard about this company? I asked what the procedure was if its not found and they wont tell me, just that I'll be notified Very anxious now On a brighter note, Scan informed me this morning I am now at position 211 from 219 for my Ryzen 5950X CPU and that they have 232 5950X CPU's coming between tomorrow and the 22nd this month ... so I should have that very soon.

Hope you do Pal, let us know please. It will be interesting to compare notes in a couple of months or so how we've all upgraded and seeing if our expectations were met in various sims we use. On 4K monitor here, and my current Nvidia Titan X Pascal 12GB card is merely treading water just now at that resolution, its about 3 years old, has served me well, it was time to upgrade it. The Zotac card I've bought, its not the highest Mhz clocked one, just stock clocks? but happy with that, refuse to pay Asus graphic card virtual tax, LOL, just for that brand name, the differences between them all are marginal, it does have a 5 year warranty I find attractive, the three fan solution should keep the card cool ... and the fact its just days away from delivery to me is a boost too. I may regret buying this card later, but I honestly feel the forthcoming AMD GPU release will have less available stock than the CPU release, its the way of the world just now unfortunately. No regrets buying this Nvidia card now at all. Interesting times though, this is my roughly 3 year upgrade cycle almost complete now.

Annnd, Ebuyer have just confirmed my RTX 3090 is despatched, ETA Monday, prob be Tuesday this far north though, was a bit concerned I was counting my chickens before they were hatched there, but its looking good for the GPU now, hurry up AMD please for the CPU, heh I guess the Nvidia GPU launch demand is starting to catch up at last, saw this same card I've bought on OcUK this morning and mid week for a few hours for about £1800 .... they never used to gouge this bad, so thought I'd look elsewhere, £1600 is still price gouging a bit at Ebuyer, but I thought the time was right.

Cheers, very pleased, quite a superstitious person really, born on an 07/07 b'day, but this Friday 13th has been good to me, had a few bits of good news today.

Thanks. However I would need to cancel Scan first and wait for refund, bit of a gamble especially as I scored an Nvidia RTX 3090 24GB Zotac ver with 5 year warranty just now from Ebuyer (who still have some left as I type), cost me an eye watering £1600 delivered, but saves the scramble of trying to get one of the new AMD GPU's on launch day, I dont think there is much in it perf wise between a 3090 and the 2 high end AMD GPU's coming out, am happy with this to keep me going a few years and hoping I can get my AMD 5950X CPU as the last part of the jigsaw delivered this month too or early Dec.

Thanks, will look out for that, no point in changing my position at Scan now, but if they are expecting some this month then hopefully Scan will be too ... fingers crossed Have them bookmarked and will try them too for the new AMD GPU battle next week. I just looked, the RX 6900 XT launches Dec 8th, hope they have plenty of stock ... high hopes I know!