tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Order #FSS0236230 I have experienced CTD's starting yesterday when flying to some European airports roughly south of a Paris-Koln line. For example Geneva, Nice etc. I run FTX global on hybrid mode, it was working fine until yesterday after I installed the free ORBX NA AI package which I then uninstalled, but now I keep getting these crashes at specific airports. Attached is a picture of the event log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 a little Google search reveals it is not related to our traffic files => http://www.google.com/custom?safe=active&client=pub-3794288947762788&cof=FORID%3A1%3BGL%3A1%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BLC%3A%230000ff%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BGFNT%3A%230000ff%3BGIMP%3A%230000ff%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&channel=5369970905&hl=en&q=g2d.dll+crash+in+fsx&btnG=Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Couple of things to try. Do you have Uiautomationcore.dll in the root of your FSX directory ? Also do you have AEModule.dll or aesmodule.dll ? Have a look in the dll.xml file and if they are their move them to the end of the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Couple of things to try. Do you have Uiautomationcore.dll in the root of your FSX directory ? Also do you have AEModule.dll or aesmodule.dll ? Have a look in the dll.xml file and if they are their move them to the end of the file. Hi Nick, No, I do not have Uiautomationcore.dll and AEModule.dll or aesmodule.dll in the root of my FSX directory. Where would the dll.xml be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Google Uiautomationcore.dll and find somewhere safe to download it. Put it in the root of your flight simulator folder. That's it ! The dll.xml file is located in your user folder. For example the path to mine is C:\Users\Nick\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX Edit the file in notepad and if you can see AEModule.dll or aesmodule.dll delete the entries and move them to the end of the file. If you Google the above you should find loads of people with the same errors. Also worth following the PDF that Avsim created to optimise FSX again google and you will find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Google Uiautomationcore.dll and find somewhere safe to download it. Put it in the root of your flight simulator folder. That's it ! The dll.xml file is located in your user folder. For example the path to mine is C:\Users\Nick\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX Edit the file in notepad and if you can see AEModule.dll or aesmodule.dll delete the entries and move them to the end of the file. If you Google the above you should find loads of people with the same errors. Also worth following the PDF that Avsim created to optimise FSX again google and you will find it. I did download Uiautomationcore.dll and did put it in the root of your flight simulator folder. I then started FSX at Alpenglach no problem, then went to Geneva and experienced a CTD after about 45% of the flight loading. Also , found the dll.xml file exactly where you said it was. There are no AEModule.dll or aesmodule.dll entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 OK. I've discovered over the years that Flight Simulator is a fickle thing. I must have installed it hundreds of times and no install is ever the same. It could be that you install a certain addon in a slightly different order that causes days of grief. For example I had loads of crashing problems with Accelleration installed. Everyone swore blind that it would not be causing the crashes but I binned it and went with Sp2 and all the crashes stopped. Re-installed Accelleration and they started again. Did this multiple times even with clean system installs. So .... This is what I do to avoid the crashes and so far it's working. Clean install with SP2 only. Go through the Avsim optimisation guide carefully. Just Google for it. Before you install any addon backup your xml.dll / FSX.cfg / scenery.cfg Test each addon by doing a few flights before moving onto the next. Google g2d.dll. Theirs years worth of posts out their if you are still having problems after doing the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 OK. I've discovered over the years that Flight Simulator is a fickle thing. I must have installed it hundreds of times and no install is ever the same. It could be that you install a certain addon in a slightly different order that causes days of grief. For example I had loads of crashing problems with Accelleration installed. Everyone swore blind that it would not be causing the crashes but I binned it and went with Sp2 and all the crashes stopped. Re-installed Accelleration and they started again. Did this multiple times even with clean system installs. So .... This is what I do to avoid the crashes and so far it's working. Clean install with SP2 only. Go through the Avsim optimisation guide carefully. Just Google for it. Before you install any addon backup your xml.dll / FSX.cfg / scenery.cfg Test each addon by doing a few flights before moving onto the next. Google g2d.dll. Theirs years worth of posts out their if you are still having problems after doing the above. There is no other solution except a full reinstall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLonger Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Install the free version of FSUIPC. It solved all my CTD's (although I didn't have that many). You only have to install it, no need to change any settings. See if that helps! http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Install the free version of FSUIPC. It solved all my CTD's (although I didn't have that many). You only have to install it, no need to change any settings. See if that helps! http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html I have the latest non-free version of FSUIPC and still have crashes at specific locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 There is no other solution except a full reinstall? No a re-install is the last resort. Have you worked through the Avsim guide ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 No a re-install is the last resort. Have you worked through the Avsim guide ? I have not yet. I will try this next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 OK. Have you Googled the problem as Wolter and myself suggested ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 OK. Have you Googled the problem as Wolter and myself suggested ? Yes, nothing suggested in these posts helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Did the avsim guide help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Did the avsim guide help ? Unfortunately not. What is remarkable, the airports and locations that work are gorgeous. I have never had these crashes happen before yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Ok. Can't offer any more advice then sorry ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Ok. Can't offer any more advice then sorry ! Thank you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Ok mate good luck ! You've not updated any video drivers have you ? If you go for the reinstall make sure everything's deleted from your user folder. I also install into a different folder. Don't know if it makes a difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Would it make sense to uninstall FTX Global and reinstall it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 me again, you state you installed the NA AI package and then un-installed it, what did you delete ? Also FTX Global has nothing to do with it as it is merely texture replacement, if all was working fine before and after deleting the NA AI package you have issues then you must have inadvertently deleted something else as well, the BIG question is what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_H Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Just grab a few beers and go for the re-install. Follow the avsim guide and treat it as a learning experience :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 me again, you state you installed the NA AI package and then un-installed it, what did you delete ? Also FTX Global has nothing to do with it as it is merely texture replacement, if all was working fine before and after deleting the NA AI package you have issues then you must have inadvertently deleted something else as well, the BIG question is what I did follow instructions on the forum, but who knows I may have inadvertently deleted something else... One possible diagnostic piece of information, it appears that all of Southern Europe airports suffer ctd, no others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Well re-installing the NA AI traffic pack won't bring it back to life, that's for sure, only thing left is to compare files, to figure out as to what is gone "awol" on you, now to figure out a way to do that on the quickest manner ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 Well re-installing the NA AI traffic pack won't bring it back to life, that's for sure, only thing left is to compare files, to figure out as to what is gone "awol" on you, now to figure out a way to do that on the quickest manner ................... Are there files specific to Southern Europe anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Well as the traffic files mostly reside in the Scenery/World/scenery folder that would be the first place to start looking at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Well as the traffic files mostly reside in the Scenery/World/scenery folder that would be the first place to start looking at How would I figure out what is missing or corrupt? It is definitely a bunch of airports in Southern Europe. The funny think Dubrovnik works whereas Trieste ctd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 attached a screenshot of the stock fsX + Acceleration contents of the ....\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Scenery\World\Scenery folder this is what was delivered with fsX so if any from those is missing it could explain something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 attached a screenshot of the stock fsX + Acceleration contents of the ....\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Scenery\World\Scenery folder this is what was delivered with fsX so if any from those is missing it could explain something They are all there with the exact same amount of KB plus additional ADE_FTX files and nine AF2_FSX_TF_ files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 How would I troubleshoot systematically this issue? The crashes occur at specific airports all located in Southern Europe, the crashes are reproducible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Oberwinkler Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Hi, would you by any chance have one or more of the following addons installed? Earth Simulations Scilly Islands, AS_Maledives, AS_IcelandX or AS German Airfields 2? regards Richad Oberwinkler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Hi, would you by any chance have one or more of the following addons installed? Earth Simulations Scilly Islands, AS_Maledives, AS_IcelandX or AS German Airfields 2? regards Richad Oberwinkler No, the only one scenery addon I have is Manhattan X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 No, the only one scenery addon I have is Manhattan X. I mean besides OrbX sceneries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Oberwinkler Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Ok. Then its not the problem I encountered... Good look on your journey.... Regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 The affected airports are in sceneries: 0601 and 0602. How would I go about finding what has been corrupted? Does anybody know how fsx loads a specific airport? attached a screenshot of the stock fsX + Acceleration contents of the ....\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Scenery\World\Scenery folderthis is what was delivered with fsX so if any from those is missing it could explain something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gw6aa Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Hi, I had similar problems involving g3d.dll. Looking on the internet reveals discussions on how to fix this problem going back years. I wonder if it's not a problem at all but just a symptom. I found that reducing "auto-gen" to 0 I was able fly to places successfully that had always produced this error. It's set on normal now and that is working for me too. It sounds a bit simplistic but worth a try - worked for me. CN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Hi, I had similar problems involving g3d.dll. Looking on the internet reveals discussions on how to fix this problem going back years. I wonder if it's not a problem at all but just a symptom. I found that reducing "auto-gen" to 0 I was able fly to places successfully that had always produced this error. It's set on normal now and that is working for me too. It sounds a bit simplistic but worth a try - worked for me. CN Thank you, I did try, unfortunately it does not help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin007b Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Just grab a few beers and go for the re-install. Follow the avsim guide and treat it as a learning experience :-D OK, I finally gave up fixing this. Now, what is the best way to reinstall fsx with FTX global and the other ORBX regions and airports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odourboy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Also FTX Global has nothing to do with it as it is merely texture replacement, if all was working fine before and after deleting the NA AI package you have issues then you must have inadvertently deleted something else as well, the BIG question is what Our first Version 1.1 patch for FTX Global is available for downloading. Changes include: Improved 3D lights that perform even better FPS and more denser Vector Lights Increased 3D lights size by 40% for further view distance and greater brightness (eventually we will release a 3D lights tuning app V2) Edited 3D lights annotation for many urban textures previously missing lighting Added intersection vehicle red tail lights, red/green traffic lights, and neon lights in commercial areas Edits to autogendescriptions.spb to add missing compatibility for some SCO Scotland objects and also missing veg at KWYS New landclass for the USA SW region to eradicate the "green deserts" and also add in the indigenous red desert in that region New landclass for parts of Africa where pine trees are being shown instead of native African trees ===================================== Crashes of the g3d.dll have been attributed to landclass problems (Google search) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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