Matt McGee Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Is there a place to report trees on runways? (I've seen the thread for SAK tree reporting.) Since buying FTX Global, I've been exploring more outside my Orbx regions and I'm finding trees on some runways. (LICZ and CYLT today, plus a couple more earlier in the week that I didn't write down). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricka47 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 This would be handy since I've found a few as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well if we are at it let's make it this one, but please be so kind and add the following to your posts on the subject:ICAO code for an airfield, also in case of which other addons related to the area your encountered the issue and if need be add Coordinates, Altitude and Heading. also please state which addon you have installed that could have an influence on the location/airfield in question. Which scenery addon or addons you have installed that could relate to the given location/airfieldalso a screenshot of the "offenders" would be welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby23 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 CYZD - All over the parking apron. I've made a quick fix AFCAD but can't figure out how to attach it to this post. This is the airport for the first Majestic Dash tutorial, so I guess I'm not the only one who's seen this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psk2449 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 YQNS Queenstown Tasmania has a thick forest across the threshold. Restricts visability a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 rgr, fella's, small thing I forgot in my previous post, is to also please state which addon you have installed that could have an influence on the location/airfield in question. otherwise we'll all end up in a wild goose chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronden Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi, I have found the same issue at LDSP (add on DAVOR PULJEVIC - CROATIAN AIRPORTS). It seems resolved moving down the 3 entries, added by FTX Gloabl at the beginning of the scenery list, just before the UTX entries and so after all the other airports add ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Jacques Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi,I'd like to share a few screenshots of the impact FTXG has on my local airport. However, could anyone point me to the area that would show me how to attach/include screenshots in my post? Thanks, JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi,I'd like to share a few screenshots of the impact FTXG has on my local airport. However, could anyone point me to the area that would show me how to attach/include screenshots in my post? Thanks, JJ how to post screenshots on our forums, then please have a read here => http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/38447-how-to-post-a-screenshot-on-the-orbx-forums/? p=335815 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Jacques Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thank you Wolter. And I just noticed a post dated last year that specifically deals with how to post screenshots. Sorry for not spotting it before now. JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 no worries JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Jacques Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi, I'm sharing an example of FTXG's impact on my local airport, the impact being trees in one of the parking area and on the taxiway leading to the single runway (9/27). Screenshots 1A and 1B are taken with the following FTX Central options activated: FTXGlobal (FTXG), Use Orbx Trees (UOT), Hybrid Mode (HM) and Vector Road Light (VRL). When the same screenshots are viewed with the above options except UOT, the result is the same. Screenshots 2A and 2B are taken with the following FTX Central options activated: FTXG and VRL. Looking forward to a fix and an uninstaller (for temporary uninstalls). Regards, Jean-Jacques 1A - CYND West Parking Area - FTXG+UOT+HM+VRL 1B - CYND Taxiway - FTXG+UOT+HM+VRL 2A - CYND West Parking Area - FTXG+VRL 2B - CYND Taxiway - FTXG+VRL For anybody interested, the West Parking area of CYND as it appeared before the installation of FTXG is featured in the first 5 or so minutes of the following video: Cheers, JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Alert bay Nunavut Canada CYLT ..trees on the runway. The reality is you would be hard pressed to find trees this big anywhere up there. .. FTX Global no other addons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scianoir Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi! Just happened to fly between EGPI Islay and EGEC Cambeltown and both have trees on runways and ramps! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 guys, please state which addon you have active at the given locations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beldar Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 hi, trees in EBBL , i have ftxg en utx active greets carlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scianoir Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi! Just happened to fly between EGPI Islay and EGEC Cambeltown and both have trees on runways and ramps! Bill Sorry, forgot to let you know which addons were active! I have FTXGlobal (Europe selected on FTX Central), EU Scotland and UTX Europe active! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Jacques Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 "guys, please state which addon you have active at the given locations" Regarding my post above about CYND (Gatineau/Ottawa Executive Airport), I have FTX Global and Ultimate Terrain X (Canada v1.2) active and of course CYND freeware scenery (by Pierre Gallant). JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N454MW Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Trees and houses all over runway 22 and some on the apron areas at KBVS. FTXG and PNW active. I tried disabling the "use Orbx trees" option in FTX Central but without effect. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordancollins Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Fly Tampa kbos and default kelowna cylw both have trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Fly Tampa kbos and default kelowna cylw both have trees Jordan, kindly add your ordernumber to your Sig as per forum rules for support. Info on how to do that you can find here => http://www.orbxsyste...ig-for-support/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Jacques Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 . . . and here's something other than trees! A second CN Tower in Toronto! I do hope that this is not unique to my setup and that this type of anomaly along with others can be corrected once an update to FTXG becomes available. I've been seriously considering re-installing FSX from scratch and not reinstalling the first version of FTXG until its negative impact in certain areas has been corrected. If this turns out to be unique to my FSX installation, then I'll definitely proceed to re-install FSX which increasingly appears to be the ultimate solution until a new updated version of FTXG is available. It's unfortunate because I really like the new scenery. FTXG + UTX. Cheers! JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 . . . and here's something other than trees! A second CN Tower in Toronto! I do hope that this is not unique to my setup and that this type of anomaly along with others can be corrected once an update to FTXG becomes available. I've been seriously considering re-installing FSX from scratch and not reinstalling the first version of FTXG until its negative impact in certain areas has been corrected. If this turns out to be unique to my FSX installation, then I'll definitely proceed to re-install FSX which increasingly appears to be the ultimate solution until a new updated version of FTXG is available. It's unfortunate because I really like the new scenery. FTXG + UTX. Cheers! JJ Toronto likes to think it's NYC so the guys at ORBX gave them their own twin towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 must be another local scenery running there, I get only one tower here see screenie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 as for the trees on the runways issue guys, Holger posted an answer in another post, so I'm only quoting him on the subject Hi guys, it looks to me as if the issue with the trees on the runway is due to the various add-ons not using one of the default airport grounds landclass types, which don't have autogen. There are some non-airport classes in default FSX that also don't have autogen but they do in the FTXG replacement textures and thus add-ons that use these classes will display unwanted autogen. In short, this isn't an issue with lclookup.bgl or terrain.cfg but simply default versus FTXG textures and autogen with an add-on that uses a non-standard class for their airport grass polygons. does the situation change at all whether you select FTXG hybrid mode or not? The easiest fix would probably be to add local autogen excludes with ADE or SBuilderX, by someone who owns that add-on, and then share those files in our compatibility subforum with other users. Cheers, Holger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltsimguy Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I don't know the extent of this issue but it does sound like it is showing up all over the place... I am wondering which default texture file(s) those would be that Orbx has "changed" by adding autogen that in the default had no autogen. Knowing which files those are might help regarding scope and breadth of the issue. What would happen if the default FSX texture was used instead of the modified version by Orbx....would the impact be very negative on flying experience in a broader context? There might be "tons" of airports in this category that would need excludes. Also if the posters could identify what addons this issue is surfacing, whether or not they are commercial vs freeware or done by a particular author that could/would help immensely. What addons might these be? As part of my consideration on a purchase of FTXG I am scoping all the issues and impacts to be sure I want to make the move and to know what obstacles I will be encountering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 as for the trees on the runways issue guys, Holger posted an answer in another post, so I'm only quoting him on the subject The only scenery add on I have is FTX Global and I have found trees where trees didn't exist with the default scenery ...so it's an issue with FTXGlobal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The only scenery add on I have is FTX Global and I have found trees where trees didn't exist with the default scenery ...so it's an issue with FTXGlobal. really, no other addons at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N454MW Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Hi, I'm running FTXG and PNW but I forgot to mention that I am running Ultimate Terrain from Flight1. I didn't think that UTX inserted any textures but I'll do some checking and see if that might be the problem. Mark Edit: After fully disabling UTX it removed the unwanted autogen from KSVE. I'm going to try now and see if I can isolate exactly what section of the UTX landclass is causing the problem. Hopefully I'll have more news later. Edit2: After doing some quick and dirty checking, I think, that the culprit on my system is the layer called "LC9 Vegetative Landclass layer" in UTX. I disabled it and left everything else the same as before and I now have no unwanted autogen at KSVE. I will do some checking at other airports and report back asap, but if anyone else is using UTX they might try this and see if it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkery Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Not on runway exactly but sprouting up through taxiways and parking at KSKA Fairchild AFB. I have all those in my sig installed including UTX USA and Mytraffic professional 5.2B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Not on runway exactly but sprouting up through taxiways and parking at KSKA Fairchild AFB. I have all those in my sig installed including UTX USA and Mytraffic professional 5.2B. did you try and disable the Traffic addon, see hat that brings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 really, no other addons at all ? You have to start somewhere! ...oh I have CEN4...from the freeware library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Jacques Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 “ must be another local scenery running there, I get only one tower here†Hi Wolter, You were right! The double CN Tower issue in Toronto is caused by an addon scenery adjacent to the Tower, the Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport CYTZ and can be solved by deactivating it. But the cost is I loose a much improved airport in comparison to FSX's default airport. My initial reaction after deactivating CYTZ was to write to the author about the issue. However, I'm not sure that the issue existed before installing FTXG and if not, and especially after reading Holger Sandmann's recent post about the possible cause behind the 'trees' issue, then I don't think the author should be contacted based on the firm belief that when the scenery was developed, FSX's SDK was respected. In addition, surely the double Tower issue would have surfaced and rectified before today considering that the scenery file was made available in October 2012 and downloaded, as of this date, 1434 times. After reading Holger Sandmann's initial findings shared in his post dated 11 August, I have difficulty accepting his suggestion that the fault behind the issue is that certain addons use non-standard class for their airport grass polygons. Where FTXG has been installed, the 'tree' issue can also be found in certain default FSX airports. See the screenshot below entitled 'CYZD Toronto-Downsview'. CYZD Toronto-Downsview (FTXG+UTX-Canada v1.2+FlightOntario's Ontario Lanclass X (Ontario Custom Farmland Landclass and Ontario Default Landclass) Based on this, I doubt very much that the responsibility should be placed on airport scenery developers who have, as I see it, respected for the most part the FSX's SDK either directly or indirectly through the use of third-party scenery tools. Over the years, I've populated my version of FSX with a good number of both freeware and payware versions of Canadian airports. In the next week or so, I hope to have visited and tested every third-party Canadian airport scenery installed in my version of FSX and report my findings on this forum. I will also randomly pick default airports and include anomalies, if any, in my report. All in the spirit of constructive criticism. Regards, JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysixty4 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I to have trees on runway and in water at Friday Harbor KFHR .Just built new computer so all fresh no other scenery or add ons apart FTX Global Rgds Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tf51d Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What I find is I'm getting these on freeware afcad airports, that include a .cvx file. If I rename the extention the problem goes away. So far I haven't seen it on any payware airports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superglide Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 KTRK, Truckee, CA, USA trees in taxiways and runways. GEX, FTXG others in my signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tf51d Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 KTRK, Truckee, CA, USA trees in taxiways and runways. GEX, FTXG others in my signature Just checked mine no 3rd party afcad, but I use UTXUSA. No trees on my taxiways or runways. Plenty lining the perimeter fence but that's normal. I looked on AVSIM and there is a 3rd party scenery file with a CVX file, do you have that, or some other addon with a CVX file? If yes, try renaming the cvx file with an extention other than .bgl. That was what I found is causing the problem with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superglide Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I do not use UTX after having installed FTXG. I have hundreds of files with CVX somewhere in the name. Some are Tongass Fjords, some are Fly Tampa, ADF AI, TrafficX Airports, etc. Non with KTRK and CVX in the same name. Maybe I'll just put some exclusion rectangles in. See what that does. I'm hoping someone from ORBX/FTX will reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavnatkguy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This started for me after I installed Australi all four and it changed the FTX Central back to the old version with 2 copies of FTX GOBAL and no options below for the trees hybrid and lights. So I reinstalled global and it comes with error code Terrain.cfg has no [landclass )section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 What I find is I'm getting these on freeware afcad airports, that include a .cvx file. If I rename the extention the problem goes away. So far I haven't seen it on any payware airports. All the ones I found have been on Global FTX, that's all I use and they weren't there on default FSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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