Jay Kae Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 http://squawkbox.ca/downloads/ Finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 It would wand to be a BIG improvement IMHO to be considered to be of equal value to FSINN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 ZOMG! i thought it would never arrive, best online flight program for VA's such goodness for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kae Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 Yup yup and no buggerising around with 2 seperate programs either, if you guys only knew what dramas FSInn has caused me/us in another beta causing a delay in development time, you would be spewing with FSInn like I am It is great if you like FSInn Mozz but nothing beats the simple interface of SB and how light it is on system resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeeker Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Is it possible to run FSinn and SB4 at the same time? I've got a successful installation of FSinn and it has a pretty good system with a little radar screen, 2 comms and a private channel taht can be all monitored simultaneously, and aircraft repository that I'd like to keep. Would be good though if I could communicate with the folks on FSinn SB4 simultaneouly. Does that sound feasible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Not as far as I am aware squeeker it causes conflicts, Iv'e never been able to get the radios to run and work as I believe they should in SB3 where FSINN everything runs from the cockpit without even seeing anything else on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty073 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Who hoo now i can go back online. Fsinn has never agrred with me and its been over a year since i started using fsx Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 This is my post from the VOZ forum.. "I have been pratting about with the various releases of FSInn for months now, annoying the crap out of any ATC that I got close to, so long in fact that I have forgotten how to fly in vatsim.. I never did get it to work properly.. I DL SB4 this A.M, and everything works a treat.... whooohooo I am back online.. Up yours FSInn..Teecee." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty073 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 There are still some bugs but that is why it has gone public beta so we can iron them out Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 actually, since this has been released and this system i have now can't run FSX, maybe is should just put FS9 on here and install squawkbox just for some VA fun man i love SB!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agade Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Proper happy about this, I've just thrown SB4 on for my first steps onto VatSim! (I've always been an IVAO flier) and there were too many reported weird little issues with things I run for me to go with FSCopilot/FSINN. I'm looking forward to meeting some Aus/NZ ATC, given that we don't really have any in IVAO when I've looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrajag Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Who hoo now i can go back online. Fsinn has never agrred with me and its been over a year since i started using fsx Shane I have wanted to fly online for awhile but FSInn kept causing me grief (well known simconnect issues) so I am looking forward to giving SB4 a go. I am a bit nervous about being on VATSIM though, I currently only fly around my little CTAF ® field. Remembering this is the first beta though so I guess we should expect a bit of pain for awhile! Steven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeeker Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Who hoo now i can go back online. Fsinn has never agrred with me and its been over a year since i started using fsx Shane I have wanted to fly online for awhile but FSInn kept causing me grief (well known simconnect issues) so I am looking forward to giving SB4 a go. I am a bit nervous about being on VATSIM though, I currently only fly around my little CTAF ® field. Remembering this is the first beta though so I guess we should expect a bit of pain for awhile! Steven. Steven, you should jump on the weekly VATPAC flights organised by Paul Phibbs (Friday nights and Sunday Arvos), it's good fun and mistakes are fine!! Paul mails out a set of charts and other useful goodies that make the preparation a piece of cake. The flights have really helpful friendly folks with a mix of real world and sim pilots.. I hear there's an upcoming series of "Radio Training Events" to get you up to speed too. Keep checking Paul's weekly posts on this forum. eg http://orbxsystems.com/forums/index.php?topic=4588.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 FSInn kept causing me grief (well known simconnect issues) Since when has FSINN used Sim connect ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolter van der Spoel Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Since when has FSINN used Sim connect ?? I'd like to hear more of that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Dunno about since when, but it does now.. heap of C**p.. Teecee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggerup Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Is any one else having problems with SB4 on vista ultimate? My rig keeps freezing when ever i connect it on. Perhaps a conflict with another programe ? I run active sky, Track IR. cheers buggerup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Oh Jay I forgot to tell you that SB is infact 3 programs using a common installer, Probly like IE v FF I spose, I just like to get in the cockpit and fly without stuffing about ie when I switch the radio I know with FSINN that the correct freq is running for the given area. I may look at SB4 and see how much it has improved, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumman Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Maurice, SB4 is the same as SB3 in terms of functionality. The only difference is that it integrates with FSX. I've been testing it because I've had problems with FSInn. SB4 works with FSX, but I'm not happy with several aspects: 1. There is no automatic sync between a CTAF or Unicom frequency on the radio stack with the corresponding voice room. You have to set up a voice-room independent of the Com frequency. In FSInn, it is automatic, and you can use a private voice-room at the same time. 2. Online traffic in SB4 is very jerky and quite annoying. I've tried a few different settings of the update interval but to no avail. With FSInn traffic is very smooth and realistic. 3. The aircraft database in SB4 seems much more limited than in FSInn, so that a lot of traffic defaults to a huge grey triangle. Pretty ugly. 4. SB4 has very basic functionality, e.g. it doesn't have the handy traffic radar that FSInn does. In summary, I wouldn't be happy flying online with SB4 in its current state. I'm not totally happy with FSInn either, but having seen the limitations of SB4 I'm going to persist with FSInn and I'm working with one of the more experienced VATPAC fliers to try to configure it to be more stable. I'm told it can be done. FSInn for FSX has been in beta for about 18 months now, and it's not clear whether it will be developed further. It's a pity with all the work that has gone into establishing VATSIM servers and ATC clients that the pilot clients aren't attracting the development effort is needed to get them to a robust state. Buggerup: Have you tried disabling Active Sky and TrackIR? I've heard that in combination they can cause conflicts (with FSInn), so it might be worth trying SB4 without them and working up from there. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggerup Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Thanks m8 i managed to get it SB4 running last night but with some sort of C++ error every now and then but if you ignore it you can stay connected. Still got some bugs to get through but its still nice to be able to get onto the vatsim network. buggerup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice_King Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thanks " grumman ", The way you have outlined things in your post is exactly why I like FSINN, Primarily since I can do everything in cockpit with no panels and other stuff even showing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz_Animal Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Just some info for all FSFDT Software is only in Beta still due to the Weather Engine not being completed. This simply means you have to disable FSInn Weather and fly using real time etc etc. We can’t be too mean to this freeware developer for the simple fact HiFi’s payware ASX can’t get it right either (Still have to use FSUIPC with it) This then causes more issues as FSUIPC WILL conflict with FSX SimConnect depending on what software you are running and at what level/allocation the control stack is loaded and what gate etc. Unfortunately for FSX users we will have to wait until someone can get it right without the requirement of using FS9 engineered software. Anyhoo, back on topic, most problems I have helped people with regarding FSFDT software issues usually come down to the following; The wrong Version has been loaded for the FS Platform FSInn/FSCopilot has been incorrectly configured dll.xml file has been incorrectly modified FSCopilot loaded in the wrong order with FSInn FSX.cfg file has been incorrectly modified FSUIPC is installed FS9 Add-on’s have been installed FS9 aircraft have been installed Non FSX Scenery packages or fixes have been installed (FS9 modified ones). As you can see there are quite a few things that have to be looked at before you condemn a piece of software and 99 times out of 100 you will find something else is the problem. And oh yer…â€RTFM†It will help you out no end…ROFL As far as the program of choice I would suggest it is as easy as this. If you have a Holden, you get SB value. If you have a BMW you have FSFDT Value. BTW, I’m a Ford man myself…lol Hope this helps Later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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