kermit_70 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Hello, recently I am having an annoying problem with my ORBX scenery, but I am not sure if it is due to LandClass or Terrain… I am running FSX Acceleration boxed, with ORBX products listed below (from FTX_Central), with updated FTX_Central_2 and current libraries. I take good care of being updated and my scenery library priorities (listed below) is tuned according to FTX_Definitive_Guide_v2. In brief, this is what happens: - Setting FTX_Central to Global, my sea off the coast now appears as some generic land! - This happens regardless of whether I have some third party scenery on top or not. - For example, I see this looking out from small islands, in Scotland (when selecting Global and not Europe), in Italy (e.g.,Elba) and in US East Coast (e.g., Block Island) - The problem disappear if I select Europe or Global Hybrid (for Scotland island) - Obviously both Elba and Block Island are not in any FTX Full Regions, so the problem persists there no matter what I select in FTX_Central (Global, Global Hybrid, Europe or NA), and this is expected. - whenever I switch with FTX_Central I double-check my new scenery.cfg list and I see that the expected changes took place (for example FTX_EU Regions are not listed when I select Global in FTX_Central), so FTX_Central is doing its job, at least with scenery.cfg - OpenLC_EU is always listed in my scenery.cfg, even when in Global (I think this is correct behaviour), but that does not prevent the sea-land problem to appear. - If I manually take off OpenLC_EU entries from scenery.cfg in Global, I still get the same problem. I link here images taken from EGPB (Scotland island) (1) Europe selected in FTX_Central (correct scenery) https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tok43e9nzimq58/FTX%20terrain%20bis.BMP?dl=0 (2) Global selected in FTX_Central (land at sea?) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahwn0wfdh66oxxf/Global.BMP?dl=0 (3) Global selected, and Open_LC taken off scenery.cfg (land at sea?) https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4wbk1dvkcoenm9/Global_noOpenLC.BMP?dl=0 Essentially, it looks like my ORBX Global Base+Vector lost the sea? I am not sure if this is a problem with LandClasses or Terrain. I tried to go back to terrain.cfg backed by by ORBX installations, and to cycle through FTX_Central regions, but the problem is still there. This started relatively recently, probably after installing the updated OpenLC_EU and maybe after installing FTX_Central_2. I did not notice it right away because I spend most of my sim time in FTX Full Regions, where this problem is not there. I am think of re-installing OpenLC, but I first want an opinion from ORBX team. Is this a good idea? Should I first uninstall it? How? Can you please advice me on how to troubleshoot this very annoying problem? Many thanks! ------------------------------- My Scenery Library Priorities (up max priority) Third Party Scenery ORBX_libs FTX Airports FTX Full Regions FTX OpenLC Europe Default FSX entries (named) FSGlobal 2010 FTX Global Vector: OBI, APT, CVX, EXX Default FSX entries (numbered) FTX Global Vector: AEC Default Scenery Default Terrain Default Props Default Global ————————— My Installed ORBX products (from FTX_Central) GLOBALFTX Global Base Pack FTX GLOBAL BASE PACK - Version 1.30 September 2014FTX Global openLC Europe FTX openLC Europe Version 1.15 - January 2015FTX Global Vector FTX GLOBAL VECTOR PACK - Version 1.20 October 2014 REGIONEngland FTX EU ENG England 1.40 - August 2014Ireland FTX EU IRL Ireland 1.10 - August 2014Northern Ireland FTX EU NIR Northern Ireland 1.20 - August 2014Norway FTX EU NOR Norway V1.10 Patch 001 April 2015Pacific Northwest FTX NA PNW PACIFIC NORTHWEST V1.0 PATCH 008 February 2014Scotland FTX EU SCO Scotland 1.20 - August 2014Wales FTX EU WLS Wales 1.30 - August 2014 AIRPORT2S1 FTX US 2S1 VASHON ISLAND VERSION 1.1 - June 20107WA3 FTX NA 7WA3 West Wind Airfield Version 1.00CEJ4 FTX CAN CEJ4 CLARESHOLM INDUSTRIAL VERSION 2.00CEN4 FTX CAN CEN4 HIGH RIVER REGIONAL AIRPORT VERSION 2.10EDBH FTX GLOBAL EDBH BARTH AIRPORT VERSION 1.00 - February 2014EDCG FTX GLOBAL EDCG RUGEN AIRPORT BETA VERSION 4000 - May 2014EGFF FTX EU EGFF CARDIFF INTL V1.10 - JUNE 2013EGHI FTX EU EGHI SOUTHAMPTON AIRPORT VERSION 1.10 - August 2014EGKA FTX EU EGKA SHOREHAM (BRIGHTON) 1.15 - December 2014EGPB FTX EU EGPB SUMBURGH AIRPORT 1.10 JUNE 2014EGSG FTX EU EGSG STAPLEFORD AIRFIELD V1.15 - November 2014ENJA FTX EU ENJA JAN MAYENSFIELD AIRPORT VERSION 1.00 APRIL 2015EO49 FTX GLOBAL EO49 LAUFENSELDEN AIRPORT BETA VERSION 2000 - July 2014KHQM FTX NA KHQM BOWERMAN AIRPORT VERSION 1.1 OTHEREurope Freeware Packs FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACKS 1 to 8 - March 2015FTX Trees HD FTX TREES HD VERSION 1.00 APRIL 2015North America Freeware Packs FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACKS 1 to 22 - June 2015North American AI Traffic FTX NA GA AI Traffic V1.20 March 2014Orbx Libraries FTX AA ORBX LIBRARIES VER 150331 31st MARCH 2015Yosemite National Park FTX US YOSEMITE VALLEY VERSION 1.00 - September 2014 UNCATEGORISEDFTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_EU1 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACK 1 - March 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_EU2 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACK 2 - April 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_EU3 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACK 3 - June 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_EU4 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACK 4 - July 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_EU5 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACK 5 - September 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_EU6 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACK 6 - October 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_EU7 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACK 7 - January 2015FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA10 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 10 - March 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA11 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 11 - April 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA12 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 12 - June 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA13 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 13 - June 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA14 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 14 - June 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA15 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 15 - July 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA16 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 16 - July 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA17 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 17 - August 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA18 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 18 - September 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA19 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 19 - October 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA2 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 2 - September 2013FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA20 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 20 - December 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA3 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 3 - October 2013FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA4 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 4 - November 2013FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA5 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 5 - December 2013FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA6 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 6 (Hawaii) - January 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA7 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 7 - January 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA8 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 8 - January 2014FTX_GLOBAL_FREEWARE_NA9 FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS NORTH AMERICA PACK 9 - February 2014FTX_NA_CBB7 FTX CA CBB7 TIPELLA AIRPORT 1.00 JULY 2013FTX_OLC_AA FTX openLC Base Region Version 1.10 - September 2013FTX_OLC_NA1 FTX openLC North America Region 1 Version 1.00 - September 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermit_70 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 PS. I also have installed REX4, so could it be a texture problem related to REX vs ORBX? In my FTX_Central_2 I don't have a "FSX_default" option (as I had in FTX_Central_1). Is it normal? Please help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Try setting FTX Central to Global and then apply the fix as found here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermit_70 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 yes, I think I did that already (found that post yesterday), even though I am not sure what is meant by "cycle FTX Central at least once between options". What I did was 1) putting backed-up terrain.cfg into my FSX folder (while saving current as copy) 2) In FSX_Central selecting: Global, Apply --> Europe, Apply --> North America, Apply It did not solve the problem. That is what I meant with: "I tried to go back to terrain.cfg backed by by ORBX installations, and to cycle through FTX_Central regions, but the problem is still there." Was I supposed to do it differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 No, sorry I missed that line. Perhaps another approach might help. I attach a default fsx scenery.cfg file which should return the sea to water. I would suggest that you then add in each of your products, which you can do by running the configurators you will find in ORBX\scripts. You might start with Vector and see if the problem returns, then OpenLC. I would suggest that if all is still well, you then add your "third party" items. scenery.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermit_70 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Ok, I will try this tonight, thanks. Just to be clear: 1) where is "ORBX\scripts" supposed to be? 2) given the ORBX product list that I put in my original question, which configurators should I find and use? Global Base? Global Vector? OpenLC? TreesHD? Single FTX Regions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Windows File Explorer. Inside your FSX root folder you will find a folder named ORBX. Inside that folder you will find a folder named Scripts. Inside Scripts you will find files named FTXConfigurator_VECTOR.exe and FTXConfigurator_OLC.exe. You will not see the .exe extension unless you have unticked the "Hide extensions for known file types" box in Windows File Explorer/Views. To run each .exe file, right click on it and select "Run as Administrator". You may see very little happen but when you return to your scenery.cfg file or the FSX scenery library, you will see that the Vector and OpenLC entries respectively have been added. You may need to reposition the block of OpenLC entries to match your list above. As above, I would first ensure that you see water in the right places with the default scenery.cfg file. Then add each component to the library and check again before you add the next. If all is still well, add each of your addon sceneries and check again. In this way, you should find the source of your problem much more quickly than if I try to guess. Don't run FTX Central until you have reached this point. When and if you have added the two FTX components and all your addon scenery one by one and the sea is still water, then you can cycle FTX Central between Global and an area and back again and this will replace the entries for them. Cycle it back to Global and from there you should still now see water in the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermit_70 Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Yes!! That did it, many thanks! It was Vector, after all. I don't understand what happened, but after running the Vector configurator above, I got water back. Then I added back OpenLC on top (I had temporarily taken it off scenery.cfg for troubleshooting), cycled FTX_Central as suggested and now everything is back to normal. Many thanks for the help! Is it something that happen often? What is the usual cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 While I am very pleased to read that your problem is solved, I would only be speculating as to the cause. I don't think the error is common and I hope that it doesn't recur for you. At least if it does, you will know where to start to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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