CharlesB Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hello, I have installed FTX Global, Vector, EuropeLC and Pilots2010. EGLK airport is in a forest with trees everywhere including on the runways. I have also noticed in the Carribean islands that some airports are in the sea. To check my installation and priorities between sceneries, what should be the location of FTX and Pilots2010 files in the scenery library. Thanks in advance for your help. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hi CharlesB, On page 38 of the Downloadable PDF ( Definitive Guide to FTX Products V2 ) Here: http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/74347-the-definitive-guide-to-ftx-products-the-go-to-source-of-ftx-information/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesB Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thank you Jeff for pointing me to the guide. I am still not quite clear about the definition of default scenery and terrain and numbered default scenery as well as named default sceneries (I speak French mother tongue!). My scenery library is as follows, starting from under and translated from French: Default mesh, default scenery, base 0000 to base 1107, ORBX!VECTOR AEX EXX CVX APT OBJ, FS Global 2010 (8 lines), Africa, Asia, many others up to propeller objects and complementary scenery, ORBX!OPENLC BASE; NAMERICA; EUROPE (10 lines), FTXA_OrbxLIBS, all my saceneries that I want to keep above FTX. Could you let me know if you think this is correct. Thanks in advance Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hi Charles, You have me at a small disadvantage with regard to languages, ( French being your native language), I can cope with rudementry French, German, Spanish, I like to call my language skills (travel language). When spoken or written, I can gather some of what is said but must rely on Google translate for anything more complex. I don't write in any other language but (English) apologies. You have presented me with quite a task. Below I have expanded slightly upon the (ref: Page 38 in the PDF) with regard to your questions. It is often easier to assist someone when able to see the actual Scenery configuration in pictures, or as a Scenery.cfg file. (You may wish to provide this information as a Scenery.cfg file from your active folder (C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX), or pictures from FSX > Settings > Scenery Library. Keeping this in mind I have expanded the Scenery Library Order list below, as seen from an FSX perspective. I have used the same Names and Colours to identify each priority group as in the PDF, and have added actual names for items in those groups in the hope it becomes more clear to you. But generally speaking FTXCentral combined with Scenery library Insertion Points should set these in the correct priority for you. Leaving only third party Addons to be prioritised by FTXCentral Insertion points or FSX/P3D Scenery Library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesB Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Thank you Jeff, Your answer is far above expectations and very complete. I have checked my scenery library and it seems correct to me, but problems are still there: - on lake Leman (LSGG, RW5 heading over the lake I have white squares; I have tried to deactivate all sceneries except ORBX scenery and FSX default sceneries, problem still there, I then have deactivated frozen lakes in Vector configuration tool and the problem disappears; it seems there is a small problem with Vector and frozen lakes. - another problem is still there, EGLK rw and taxi ways are in a forest, all addon scenery deactivated except ORBX scenery Maybe someone from Fullterrain could help, Best regards, Charles Just in case, here is my scenery.cfg: [General]Title=D�cor d'environnement FS9Description=Donn�es de d�cor FS9Clean_on_Exit=TRUE [Area.001]Title=Relief par d�fautTexture_ID=1Layer=1Active=TRUERequired=TRUELocal=Scenery\World [Area.002]Title=D�cor par d�fautLayer=2Active=TRUERequired=TRUELocal=Scenery\BASE 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Jethro VH-JET Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hi Charles, Can you confirm wether you are using FSX- (Boxed Version) FSX:SE - (STEAM) or P3DxVx.x, as I saw a few entries for P3D in there at [Area.233] >[Area.236]. I'm more than a little baffled by your Scenery.cfg entries. See below It appears that you still have some elements in your "Scenery library" out of order, the OLC entries located at [Area.249] >to>[Area.260], their position would indicate that they are in a position above FTXAA_ORBXLIBS, they should be below FTXAA_ORBXLIBS. There is also a discrepancy in your Scenery.cfg where It jumps from [Area.213] immediately to [Area.167] and then continues all the way to the top of the list to [Area.001] you would seem to be missing 46 entries between [Area.167] and [Area.213]. Also the entries for the areas [Area.230] Edwards_AFB [Area.229] Berlin > [Area.228] Longleat > [Area.227] Istanbul > [Area.226] Reno, are separated from their (Named Default Sceneries) at [Area.125] Las Vegas, and continue on with Reno, Istanbul, Longleat , Berlin, Edwards_AFB. At this point I would suggest revising your Scenery Library order according to my list above (Ignoring any ORBX or Non-ORBX software that you don't have) then Start your Simulator and go to (FSX>Settings>Scenery Library) and arrange the list per (My POST#4 ) click OK and Close FSX. Then open FTXCentral go into Tools Menu> Scenery library Configuration> Scenery Library Insertion Points. And set the Library insertion points for those items which should remain above ORBX and those items which should remain below ORBX in priority order, remembering to keep the integrity of the default/core FSX items intact. Here is a link to the FAQ about Setting Insertion Points in FTXCentral http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/28291-adding-a-scenery-library-insertion-point-ftxcentral-step-by-step/ - on lake Leman (LSGG, RW5 heading over the lake I have white squares; I have tried to deactivate all sceneries except ORBX scenery and FSX default sceneries, problem still there, I then have deactivated frozen lakes in Vector configuration tool and the problem disappears; it seems there is a small problem with Vector and frozen lakes This is a known issue and Orbx & Pilots are working on a solution ( afaik ) Unchecking the frozen lakes and water bodies, is the best course of action at this time. - another problem is still there, EGLK rw and taxi ways are in a forest, all addon scenery deactivated except ORBX scenery Maybe someone from Fullterrain could help This might be a result of your Current library order, but I am unable to confirm because I do not own (Global Vector, FTX OLC EU) or (FSGlobal 2010). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesB Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Jeff, Thank you for your quick response. I am using FSX presently. I had been trying P3D and was sharing some scenery which explains the location of areas 233 to 236. In FSX my ORBX sceneries are in the correct order but appear in a different order in scenery.cfg. Strange. I have cross checked scenery library and it seems correct. My FTX Central does not offer a default button, only FTX Global so what should I do with the insertion points? Thanks for you patient help Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hi Charles, Yes the Scenery Libray order is reversed in the Scenery.cfg file, reading from Bottom to Top, and should remain that way. This is why I suggest using the available tools "Insertion points" & "FSX> Settings>Scenery Library within FSX" to move the entries into their correct positions, rather than mess directly with the "Scenery.cfg". Whenever you have Orbx Global products installed, and an instruction is given in an earlier type FAQ (such as the Insertion Points instruction - link) it will mention to set FTXC to FSXdefault or Default as the option. In this case, having FTX Global Products installed the "New Default" will always be the "FTXGlobal" icon. This is what you should select, for setting your "Scenery Library Insertion Points". But because you do not yet have any "FTX Regional" areas your FTXCentral, it will naturally only show the "FTXGlobal" icon. Later on when you installed "Full regions" it will be necessary to use this switching ability, between Region/s and default/FTXGlobal icon. I have to say at this point Charles, the ball is in your court, I have run out of suggestions. As I do not have many of the addons in your Scenery Library, it would be foolish of me to make suggestions on things outside the scope of Orbx software and other associated software including FSG2010 & OZx, that I am completely familiar with. You will have to rely on The Orbx Team or other members along with installation instructions that came with your software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesB Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hi Jeff, Thank you for your help, I will try to get help from the ORBX Team, but I do not know how to attract their attention. Regarding the order of entries in FSX scenery manager and scenery.cfg, I am aware that the order should be reversed. What I meant is that some entries are not in the same place even after insertion with FTXCentral. Anyway the problem I am experiencing does not prevent me from flying and I thank you again for all the time you spent replying to my messages. Cheers, Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro VH-JET Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Hi Charles, I will try to get help from the ORBX Team, but I do not know how to attract their attention. Follow this Topic at the top right hand of this page will indicate wether your topic has attracted an Orbx team member, also when a post has been marked "Answered" or "Resolved" this label has ben placed there by a Orbx forum moderator or staff member, and will likely go unwatched by Orbx Team Members thereafter, this topic was so marked after the first response ,having answered your original question. It did then linger and grow in content thereafter, it is sometimes better to begin a new Topic in that case with remaining questions or new questions linking your post back to your original question. There remain 3 followers + yourself in this Topic, you never know it may still attract an Orbx Team member, they may still follow up with your remaining questions. You can add the words to this Topic - "Bump" and also include "Orbx Team can you help me please" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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