John Venema Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Bernd has shared with the team just a single comparison in Arkansas that shows the DRAMATIC improvement to North America that moving from OSM to USGS NHD data for the USA and GeoBase NHN data for Canada has done. Note how the new data has a vastly denser water body definition, even showing every orphaned river section to the east of Little Rock, where previously there was only one or two. Complete river systems, streams and more accurate road networks have also been added. You can now see how even the default landclass compliments the path of the White River to the east. There is a substantial benefit from moving from OSM to more accurate and vetted data. The approach to KLIT (especially at dusk) will be spectacular! We said from the beginning that VECTOR is your investment in a continually improving product, and this is just one example of how each version will get better and better, especially if you guys keep those reports coming in. We always knew it would have warts, but it's getting better as time goes by particularly as we source more accurate data. Vector 1.2 is being worked on now, and there will be an interim V1.15 release shortly which solves most if not all the AEC issues people are having. Yours in updates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripcord Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Wow. Two pictures is really worth 2000 words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Awesome!, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbxtreme Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 This is amazing, a huge progress in very little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefocus Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Looks a great deal better. Keep up the good work. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Abernathy Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 You can always count on ORBX to raise the bar and keep a promise. Very nice looking new data source John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf2grey Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Wicked good. Cannot wait. Loving Vector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabnz Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Wow - That's brilliant stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpreou Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Sweeeeeet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcj Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Is there an equivalent of USGS providing the same resolution of data for Europe, Africa, and Asia? Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Fly Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Smashing results! I wonder though, there seem to be some polygonal water bodies in your second shot. What are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_66 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The difference is amazing. Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Smashing results! I wonder though, there seem to be some polygonal water bodies in your second shot. What are they? Probably man-made reservoirs. Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Is there an equivalent of USGS providing the same resolution of data for Europe, Africa, and Asia? Marc No. There are data sources for other parts of the world, but some of them are way too expensive and for many countries they're simply not available in this resolution. Also, every country released their own data sets and these data sets are very often not adjusted to match the datasets of neighbour countries. However, the source data we have used for Europe is far better than the OSM data for the US, so the difference wouldn't be that big in Europe. We will look for other data sources (and I already have some) for updates after V1.2 but all I can promise is that they'll increase the quality of the product. Don't know how they are compared to USGS NHD etc. Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie_2 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 This clearly shows that OSM Date is very rare for NA. Looking really awesome now, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansommers Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 night and day! nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa-kebab007 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Looking fantastic. Nice to see that the Vector product will continue to evolve, Great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabloomf1230 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 As one of the people that tipped you off about the USGS dataset, I should add that there is a nice ArcGIS coverage for Euopean rivers, which is free for non-commercial use. You have to contact the auhors about commercial application, though. HydroSHEDS (Hydrological data and maps based on SHuttle Elevation Derivatives at multiple Scales) provides hydrographic information in a consistent and comprehensive format for regional and global-scale applications. HydroSHEDS offers a suite of geo-referenced data sets (vector and raster), including stream networks, watershed boundaries, drainage directions, and ancillary data layers such as flow accumulations, distances, and river topology information. HydroSHEDS is derived from elevation data of the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM) at 3 arc-second resolution. Available HydroSHEDS resolutions range from 3 arc-second (approx. 90 meters at the equator) to 5 minute (approx. 10 km at the equator) with seamless near-global extent. http://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=9062a1b2f48a4e04aa8b45df19b8ff40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 As one of the people that tipped you off about the USGS dataset, I should add that there is a nice ArcGIS coverage for Euopean rivers, which is free for non-commercial use. You have to contact the auhors about commercial application, though. HydroSHEDS (Hydrological data and maps based on SHuttle Elevation Derivatives at multiple Scales) provides hydrographic information in a consistent and comprehensive format for regional and global-scale applications. HydroSHEDS offers a suite of geo-referenced data sets (vector and raster), including stream networks, watershed boundaries, drainage directions, and ancillary data layers such as flow accumulations, distances, and river topology information. HydroSHEDS is derived from elevation data of the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM) at 3 arc-second resolution. Available HydroSHEDS resolutions range from 3 arc-second (approx. 90 meters at the equator) to 5 minute (approx. 10 km at the equator) with seamless near-global extent. http://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=9062a1b2f48a4e04aa8b45df19b8ff40 The problem with HydroSHEDS is, that is doesn't contain the actual river polygons but only stream lines which is not sufficient to make good-looking FSX scenery. However, if you think that they have these polygons (and I just don't find them), feel free to write a PM or answer this post . Thanks, Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanM Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Wow - can't wait to fly around Northern Ontario now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackVoid Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 ummm...WOW ! ! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Man, that difference is amazing. I thought what I already have is very good, but it's amazing to see the differences in detail between the two. I'm definitely looking forward to this, even though it has a ways to go. Thanks for the preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanvito Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 This is a dramatic change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtail99 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Simming at it's best! Can't wait for openLC NA to go with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I see oxbow lakes. If there's one thing you remember from school geography lessons, it is the oxbow lake and how it is formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alank Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I am currently crossing the USA from east to west using Global, Vector 1.1 and FTX Terrain Mesh 2010. The entire continent has become one huge terrain package! With the advent of Vector 1.2 etc. and Open LC I can see the demise of terrain packages altogether, with the developers focussing on airports only ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Routley Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 **Thread Tidied ** Thanks for all the grammar input. Back On Topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binarkansas Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Wow, Wow, Triple Wow............a shot using Arkansas as an example............. Show more. I've been holding off on purchasing Vector because I've been spending most of my sim allowance on regional scenery. Arkansas is my home state and it has a lot of awesome scenery. Please, some pics from a lower altitude and of some of the Northeastern part of the state, showing the Mississippi River and the delta farmland. I'm sold, on Vector as soon as finances allow, can't wait for the landclass project to be finished also. I have been using FSGenesis for North America for a long time, it is not great, but better than default. Please, more shots of vector 1.2 showing roads. Wow again. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alank Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I am currently crossing the USA from east to west using Global, Vector 1.1 and FTX Terrain Mesh 2010. The entire continent has become one huge terrain package! With the advent of Vector 1.2 etc. and Open LC I can see the demise of terrain packages altogether, with the developers focussing on airports only ... correction - for "terrain" please read "regional" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Wow, Wow, Triple Wow............a shot using Arkansas as an example............. Show more. I've been holding off on purchasing Vector because I've been spending most of my sim allowance on regional scenery. Arkansas is my home state and it has a lot of awesome scenery. Please, some pics from a lower altitude and of some of the Northeastern part of the state, showing the Mississippi River and the delta farmland. I'm sold, on Vector as soon as finances allow, can't wait for the landclass project to be finished also. I have been using FSGenesis for North America for a long time, it is not great, but better than default. Please, more shots of vector 1.2 showing roads. Wow again. Barry Hi Barry! Since I'm not from that area (not even from the US), can you give me an ICAO code or a city name which is near the area you want to have screenshots from? If yes, I can easily make them and upload them to this thread . Thanks, Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olderndirt Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The visuals have never been a problem so v2.0 will be a real bonus and sooner on the AEC will definitely be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binarkansas Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Hi Barry! Since I'm not from that area (not even from the US), can you give me an ICAO code or a city name which is near the area you want to have screenshots from? If yes, I can easily make them and upload them to this thread . Thanks, Bernd Bernd, thanks for the offer. I will ask for two. If you have time and want to make a few more, I will be happy to suggest more. First, this is a small town airport in eastern Arkansas, across the Mississippi River from Tennessee. It is in the Mississippi Delta, Cotton Country. Osceola, Arkansas 7M4 . The second is in north central Arkansas, near my present home, Horseshoe Bend, Arkansas 6M2. If you can take screen shots showing roads, I will be very appreciative. Thanks in advance Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfko Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I am currently crossing the USA from east to west using Global, Vector 1.1 and FTX Terrain Mesh 2010. The entire continent has become one huge terrain package! With the advent of Vector 1.2 etc. and Open LC I can see the demise of terrain packages altogether, with the developers focussing on airports only ... Go and buy NCA and you will see that there won't be a demise of regional packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvearl Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I am currently crossing the USA from east to west using Global, Vector 1.1 and FTX Terrain Mesh 2010. The entire continent has become one huge terrain package! With the advent of Vector 1.2 etc. and Open LC I can see the demise of terrain packages altogether, with the developers focussing on airports only ... Not until they start releasing regional airport packs but were getting closer. Most all small to medium airports are still sterile little strips devoid of content and buildings. Regions are still king but at least this will allow me to be far less aware that I have crossed over from a region into default scenery. At least until I land. Ha! C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FILOU Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 ORBX makes again the difference! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightnorton Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hallo John, such a speed with your updates and new versions, it´s really great, thank you very much for this product... ...but it makes it a little bit difficult for a review with your astonishing work, but you wrote this in the manual. FTX Global Vector is not only a product, it´s a project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Indeed we could have spent 5 years to make it 'perfect' but we chose to give customers the benefit of the product now and continually upgrade during improved data acquisitions and adding new tech etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronKen Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Tremendous difference; will look forward to 1.2 with great anticipation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolomeus Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Looks awesome, looking forward to the new update! Marko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolkien Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Wow - can't wait to fly around Northern Ontario now! Not just Northern Ontario, but a very large part of Canada: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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