SPowell42 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Hi, I'm seeing issues around KFFA and the Outer Banks, specifically trees in the middle of the runway, and completely missing shore line and beaches. Trying to find someone who can tell me if I've somehow installed incorrectly or if this is a true bug. Thanks, Scott P.s. To see the shoreline issue, just fly south from KFFA along eastern edge of the outer banks. The shoreline is perfectly straight line, with buildings and traffic right up to edge of water...no sand to be seen anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronKen Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I can confirm this; trees in the runway and no beaches along the shoreline from the southern tip northwards toward Va. Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Thanks, I'll check this and report back. Gesendet von meinem GT-I9300 mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFS Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Good thing I have a nice "buzz saw" on the front of my Corsair... If I'm not mistaken, I think the beaches/towns/homes will be corrected with the upcoming LC products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hi PFS, thanks for confirming, glad it's not just me! Re: OpenLC, I believe it should fix buildings ( I hope?), but my understanding is that beaches are 100% vector. Had issues with beaches when UTX first came out. Bernd, any chance you can confirm if the beaches are fixable? Also, not sure what would have caused trees to sprout in middle of runway, is that fixable also? Thanks! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I don't mean to be excessively arrogant or rude... but really... how can the birthplace of powered flight get rendered so poorly? Maybe I'm biased because I grew up near OBX and FFA but I just bought Vector and Global yesterday on the premise of "accurate shorelines" and was thoroughly disappointed when I saw roads and house at the water's edge... Unless of course it was rendered to look like the Outer Banks right after a major hurricane has blown through, in which case, excellent job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Even after a hurricane there is still sand present... Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Is this being fixed for the 1.10 patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Just installed Vector 1.2 and still seeing misplaced houses, roads, etc. Roads such as Route 12 and Route 158 look accurately placed but everything else is just randomly scattered... Is this even a Vector-related issue or something that might be corrected by a Prepar3d update to v2.4 or OpenLC when it's released for North America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 I believe (but am not 100% certain) that beaches are vector, not land class. So I strongly suspect this is a vector problem. The thing I really don't get...after saying they were using new source data, it still looks like the concept of beaches (at least along the Outer Banks) is completely missing. I don't understand this...UTX had good North Carolina beaches like 10 years ago. Hard to believe the source data has gotten "worse"? Still waiting for the day I can give Orbx $ for this...but the Outer Banks is one of my primary flying places. MSmithJR, thanks for posting the pics. Still hoping this will someday be fixed. Thx, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 No beaches seems to be prevalent in more than the Outer Banks. Northern Gulf Coast is completely devoid of the beutiful pure white sand beaches the area is noted for. The barrier islands south of Pensacola look more like farmland than beaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Podhradsky Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Hi! The new source data for the US didn't contain beaches but I will look into this for a future update. Regarding "misplaced houses": that's the way FSX works. With landclass, it will get better, but it still will be an autogen-texture-based scenery. Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks Bernd, nice to know this has at least been noticed. Hi! The new source data for the US didn't contain beaches but I will look into this for a future update. Regarding "misplaced houses": that's the way FSX works. With landclass, it will get better, but it still will be an autogen-texture-based scenery. Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Hi, just wondering if after the latest patches Vector is fixed for the Outer Banks and I can finally think about purchasing it. Can someone shoot a screenshot or two of KFFA and the beaches that should surround it? Thanks! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 No need for screenshots around KFFA because the shoreline is still sand free and looks more like a rocky shoreline. I even had an addon (Kill Devil Hill) that did nothing for the shoreline either when installed. I guess the beaches are still on the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Anyone tried it in P3D v3? I've been away from flight simulation the last 9 months or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 Hi just wondering if the beach issues around KFFA and the Outer Banks is still broken...going on almost 3 years at this point. Thanks, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lincoln Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Hello Scott, A valid point, thank you for the heads up, I will send it back to Stefan for an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted May 29, 2017 Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 Hi, going on 4 years now. I'm going to be buying a lot of stuff with the upcoming release of prepar3d v4...would like to move forward with Global, Global Vector, etc....but only if there's actually beaches along the NC coast. Has this been fixed yet? Thanks. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 You're joking! I admit that I've been disconnected from P3D and Orbx during the last year, but I remember looking into this with you Scott years ago! Crazy to hear this is still going on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lincoln Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Hi, Look what I found! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Wow - well done on the beach! Too bad the houses and buildings are still randomly scattered throughout! An arrangement like this would be much more accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPowell42 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hi Richard, any chance I could ask you to snap a picture near Ocracoke island airport W95? Just a top down view from the runway is fine. Should be right next to the beach... Beautiful little airport in real life. Agree with msmithjr that something is fishy with the autogen... Not sure why. I would think the vector roads would line up with real life... In which case I think the autogen would be better. Maybe it's a case of the small roads being too small to be included in vector, in which case autogen would pop up everywhere. Wonder if I could fix this.... Thanks both to Richard and msmithjr for confirming.... Looks like it's finally time to buy vector. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQSteve Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 You guys need to search this forum. I posted about these beaches and Ocracoke Island. Most of which was fixed. The autogen is a shame in these desolate beach and State Park areas. It does look much better now though. KFFA looks real good if you get the NA freeware airports. I even got them to fix the monument so it looks like a monument and not a top hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Um ok... all hail BBQSteve...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQSteve Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Thank you and thank you Vector and freeware team for correcting the issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Ok gotta stop ya there... it's not "fixed" - just added a beach... the overall scenery is still sub-par at best and reeks of quick fix syndrome. Call me when the OBX looks like OBX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQSteve Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I know the OBX as well as you do, One of my favorite places too. The autogen you can't blame ORBX for. You obviously don't understand the autogen process. However, you are correct, it sucks, go fly without any of it. That sucks more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Goff Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 That's the nature of landclass and vector scenery, it will never be exact, there is no landclass texture for "string of beach houses at the waters edge surrounded by sea oats". Just "semi-rural temperate residential" placed at it's closest approximation. You may be better served by finding a photoreal solution for higher precision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithjr Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm not referring specifically to autogen - and I'm also not attacking other people's knowledge of the area... just saying I'm not impressed with a product for which so much hype was made and hasn't lived up to that hype. For the I've money spent, I expect better than "semi-rural temperate residential". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lincoln Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hi, Your point has been made msmithjr, I will send this again to PILOTS, that is the best outcome at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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