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I'm here in Africa on the approach to HSAK Akobo.
Many airports look like this not only here, but also in America. Either in a trench or on an elevation. Just don't plan on the area. It only affects small airports and is not an add-on. My basics are Orbx products. So global, Vector (repaired an add-on airport to the correct height in v5.2, so it also has an effect in v5.), All openLC and some regions, which it does not affect here.
Now, after the above mentioned approach, I have checked all files that concern this scenery again, set the mesh setting from 1 to 5, no change when restarting.
Where is the mistake?
In the appendix the scenery - cfg
Thank you Peter Fischer

 

 

https://magentacloud.de/s/PBwJ72pmDKDB4Sg

scenery.cfg

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Hi Peter

 

Your attached scenery.cfg file is in extreme disarray and also has no Orbx products in it.

 

Your Orbx products seem to all be installed outside the simulator, and they also do not have any affect on your elevation issues. Even Vector for P3Dv5 does not address airport elevation correction as did the v4 version. So if you are using the AEC tool in Vector, you have the wrong version installed.

 

One of your main problems that I see with your scenery.cfg is that when you rewrote the paths to all the default Base entries, you forgot to add the two most important entries at the bottom of the list, they are the "Default Scenery" and the "Default Terrain" as shown in the below image.

 

I also see that the default numbered Base entries are listed upside down/backwards. Number 1107 should be at the top and 0000 at the bottom.

 

Also I see you have many non default scenery items mixed amongst the default Named items, which should not be done.

 

This will be a start to fixing your issues, so after you have rectified as much of the above as you can, Please post a copy of your “scenery.cfg” file and the “add-ons.cfg” and the “scenery_add-ons.xml” files found at C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5.

 

 

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Hallo Doug,

also, ich habe seit gestern V5.3 komplett neu installiert, vorher Orbx total entfernt, getestet und der Flieger hing immer noch über den Abgrund. Dann habe ich Orbx total neu auf eine große interne SSD installiert, das Ergebnis war, das Loch (bzw den Airport darin)  konnte ich nur mit einem Düsenjäger verlassen (ein Hubschrauber hätte es auch getan). Alles andere scheiterte an der Steigung. 

Nach der Landung in HAGM folgende Bilder:

https://magentacloud.de/s/t9R9J698GnycYSF

https://magentacloud.de/s/Tcs3Gestid4SGQB

https://magentacloud.de/s/jfHR9xXP4BcBN2Z

der Airport wieder in einem Loch, wohlgemerkt nach der Neuinstallation und nur Orbx ohne weitere Änderungen.

Ich habe dann, nach dem lesen Deiner Antwort im Simstarter nachgeschaut, es stimmt, die Devault Dateien fehlen. Wohlgemerkt, nach der Neuinstallation ohne Änderungen in den originalen Scenery - Dateien.

Ich werde dann mal die scenery.msi erneut  neu installieren und mal sehen, was da heraus kommt.

Ich melde mich dann nochmal.

Gruß Peter

 

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Hallo Doug,

also, ich habe seit gestern V5.3 komplett neu installiert, vorher Orbx total entfernt, getestet und der Flieger hing immer noch über den Abgrund. Dann habe ich Orbx total neu auf eine große interne SSD installiert, das Ergebnis war, das Loch (bzw den Airport darin)  konnte ich nur mit einem Düsenjäger verlassen (ein Hubschrauber hätte es auch getan). Alles andere scheiterte an der Steigung. 

Nach der Landung in HAGM folgende Bilder:

https://magentacloud.de/s/t9R9J698GnycYSF

https://magentacloud.de/s/Tcs3Gestid4SGQB

https://magentacloud.de/s/jfHR9xXP4BcBN2Z

der Airport wieder in einem Loch, wohlgemerkt nach der Neuinstallation und nur Orbx ohne weitere Änderungen.

Ich habe dann, nach dem lesen Deiner Antwort im Simstarter nachgeschaut, es stimmt, die Devault Dateien fehlen. Wohlgemerkt, nach der Neuinstallation ohne Änderungen in den originalen Scenery - Dateien.

Ich werde dann mal die scenery.msi erneut  neu installieren und mal sehen, was da heraus kommt.

Ich melde mich dann nochmal.

Gruß Peter

 

Ich habe noch einmal die scenery.msi erneuert. Immer noch keine  Default Dateien vorhanden. Im Anhang die cfg`s

 

 

add-ons.cfg scenery.cfg scenery_add-ons.xml

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Ich habe jetzt sämtliche Addon - Scenery aus dem Stammverzeichnis von v5.3. entfernt und getrennt gespeichert. Kann diese ja dann per Simstarter leicht wieder einfügen. Außerdem noch mal v5.3 herunter geladen und neu installiert. Die scene.cfg ist jetzt frei von fremd - Addons außer Orbx. 

Tro

Ich habe jetzt die gesamte Addon-Szenerie aus dem Root-Verzeichnis von v5.3. entnommen und getrennt aufbewahrt. Lässt sich diese dann einfach per Simstarter wieder einfügen. Auch wieder v5.3 heruntergeladen und neu installiert. Die Scenery.cfg ist jetzt frei von Add-Ons von Drittanbietern außer Orbx.

Trotzdem kann ich keine Standardszenerie finden.

tzdem finde ich keine Standardszenerie.

scenery.cfg add-ons.cfg scenery_add-ons.xml

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Hello,

your scenery.cfg file, is, as Doug has pointed out, corrupted beyond repair.

How you have achieved ths is something that only you know.

I would strongly recommend that you delete it and all backups and other copies that you may have.

I attach a clean P3D v5 scenery.cfg file which should be placed into C:\programdata\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5.

I would then recommend that you rename your add-ons.cfg file to add-ons.cfg.off and only then start P3D.

You should then see a working default copy and you can start again from there.

SimStarter is a powerful tool and its use needs to be both informed and careful.

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Danke Nick,

 

das hat erst einmal funktioniert. Das Wasser ist wieder blau und die Niagara - Fälle sehen wieder Klasse aus.

Nur das Problem mit den Airports ist noch vorhanden:

HSAK

https://magentacloud.de/s/2cdAsCYxM3pLkSP

HKEM

https://magentacloud.de/s/qmQaGFTXBJDdZg2

 

Es sind nur wenige Airports, die so aus der Rolle fallen. Ich werde in Zukunft, überall, wo ich auf so ein Problem stoße, den Airport angeben.

Vielleicht kann sich ja dann jemand mal mit der Datei beschäftigen. ist für Sie jedenfalls einfacher, als sämtliche Dateien nach Fehlern zu durchforsten. 

 

Lieber Gruß Peter

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On 17.12.2021 at 14:54, txrace said:
On 17.12.2021 at 22:48, txrace said:

Danke Nick,

 

das hat erst einmal funktioniert. Das Wasser ist wieder blau und die Niagara - Fälle sehen wieder Klasse aus.

Nur das Problem mit den Flughäfen ist noch vorhanden:

HSAK

https://magentacloud.de/s/2cdAsCYxM3pLkSP

HKEM

https://magentacloud.de/s/qmQaGFTXBJDdZg2

 

Es sind nur wenige Flughäfen, die so aus der Rolle gefallen sind. Ich werde in Zukunft, überall, wo ich auf so ein Problem stoße, den Airport angeben.

Vielleicht kann sich ja dann jemand mal mit der Datei beschäftigen. ist für SIE jedenfalls einfacher, als sämtliche Dateien nach Fehlern zu durchforsten. 

 

Lieber Gruß Peter


Thanks Nick,

 

that worked for now. The water is blue again and the Niagara Falls look great again.

Only the problem with the airports remains:

HSAK

https://magentacloud.de/s/2cdAsCYxM3pLkSP

HKEM

https://magentacloud.de/s/qmQaGFTXBJDdZg2

 

There are only a few airports that have fallen out of place like that. In the future, I will indicate the airport wherever I encounter such a problem.

Maybe someone can then deal with the file. is in any case easier for YOU than to search through all files for errors.

 

 

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Am 17.12.2021 um 14:54 sagte txrace:
Am 17.12.2021 um 22:48 sagte txrace:

 

Hello Nick,

Thank you for your answer.
I installed the files after looking for the insert location for a long time. Unfortunately it didn't work. I tested the pure P3D as well as with Orbx.

As for HKEM Airport, that was my fault. The airport HAGM was meant. I made a mistake.
Can we leave the topic open. so that you can give other users the opportunity to report incorrect altitudes to airports in order to correct them. As I have already written, it mainly affects original small airports, no add-ons and there are only a few distributed around the globe. But if you just fly to one of these and you see a deep pit as a runway, then that's not nice.

Greetings Peter

 

HSAK no Orbx pur P3D

https://magentacloud.de/s/8HkfYmpasGpCHzW

 

 

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Hello,

the files do work but you need to add them to P3D v5 correctly.

I have added them this time to a scenery folder, along with files for HAGM.

Make a folder named Addon Scenery inside your P3D root folder and after unzipping

the scenery folder, place the scenery folder into the Addon Scenery folder.

 

1.jpg

 

Start P3D and add the Addon Scenery folder to your scenery library.

 

2.jpg

 

HSAK before:

 

2021-12-21_14-59-21-426.jpg

 

and after:

 

2021-12-21_15-0-29-867.jpg

 

HAGM before:

 

2021-12-21_15-2-2-117.jpg

 

HAGM after:

 

2021-12-21_15-15-14-704.jpg

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Am 17.12.2021 um 14:54 Uhr sagte txrace:
Am 17.12.2021 um 22:48 Uhr sagte txrace:

Hello Nick

Thank you very much for the files.
Of course, I already have the Addon - scenery folder in the root directory, but I had already moved the content to another SSD due to space problems.
The 2 airports are now working properly. Now all that remains to be done is to lay the road that runs across the HSAK taxiway. But that's a different chapter and maybe one day it will be solved with True Earth Africa.
Nick, I'll fly through the airports that are specified in the simulator one after the other. and so I come across such airports every now and then. I get in touch every now and then, because your data from the corrected airports are not only interesting for me, but would also be of benefit to the entire community. You could then certainly also be helpful to the developers of P3D in order to fix the errors in the program.
Thank you very much and I wish you and your loved ones a wonderful Christmas.

Greetings Peter

 

 

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Hello Nick
maybe there is still something else to do here: The area around Rafha (OERF) looks pretty bleak:

https://magentacloud.de/s/YbyLfZ92egHs88k

 

My settings:

https://magentacloud.de/s/ttapWb9GDzTtbGM

https://magentacloud.de/s/c8ptqPBzjYxJxz6

 

plus a picture, about 200 nm before, same flight, same settings.

https://magentacloud.de/s/kJ7ojLtsADe2mC7

 

I had to deactivate EA and HDR, otherwise the cockpit would be too dark.

 

My GPU is an RTX 2080 Super

 

I am turning to you with this topic because I believe you are the right contact person or you know them well.


I wish you a healthy, happy new year
Greetings Peter

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Hello Nick

 

Thanks for working with Orbx, but it's not the point to disable Orbx every time you go to Iraq or  Saudi Arabien

The Arabian Peninsula is only covered by Orbx Global, no other add-ons, as far as I know. Or are there any good addons for v5.3 that hide the bug?
On the flight to the east, the framed area is faultless.

https://magentacloud.de/s/y3Sk9DCci27A7DJ


Greetings Peter

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Hello Nick,
can you please send me the bgl file from your airport?
It's a pity that more users don't participate in this topic, because you could have different opinions and uncover even more errors.
Greetings Peter

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