Goochie Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 The release notes for World Update III advise to uninstall Orbx Landmarks London City Pack as it is not compatible with the UK update. Is there any comment from Orbx on this? What is the future for the City Pack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFlight Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I would be interested in that too. After Worldupdate III, I installed the Orbx London City Pack once as a test, and it looks awful. Whole city districts and many buildings are completely missing. I was under the impression that Orbx had a collaboration with MS/Asobo. Orbx London City Pack and MSFS after Worldupdate III does not work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Hello, this is the official reply to the first time this question was asked. Quote Hi there, fair question though we can't say anything definitive until we have had a chance to check ourselves. Generally speaking, photogrammetry is essentially a patch of high-resolution terrain mesh and thus individual areas can be overridden with small flatten polygons. We already have those in place for most of the London POI models. However, we've also placed quite extensive flatten polys elsewhere across the city and river to fix those odd bumps and holes visible in the default terrain. It's possible that those will suppress the photogrammetry in those areas. We'll assess the best approach for addressing any visual issues asap after release of the World Update: patch, separate version, some "hybrid" option... As for the MS upgrades making our landmark packs "obsolete": from the two released World Updates we can guess their typical content: a dozen or two custom objects, a handful of detailed airports, some general texture and terrain enhancements. Plus, potentially new photogrammetry for local areas. That doesn't really overlap too much with what we're trying to achieve, even ignoring the known issues with the mid-distance display (and night lighting) of photogrammetry. Cheers, Holger Given that for most users, the MSFS download is still in progress, perhaps you can wait a while and see what develops. This is the advice for Asobo. It also points out what is going on. Quote ORBX London Landmarks Scenery (3rd party content) is currently conflicting with this update. This is actively being worked on, but in the meantime, we recommend disabling this 3rd party scenery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badl4ndz Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 The sim update is 23GB and the world update 3 is 4.9GB. For the record, I also found some small updates available in the content manager for the Japanese content from world update 1. I've uninstalled London Landmarks for now as I'm curious as to what the default London now looks like and to see what info is released from Orbx regarding their London Landmarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abriael Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, this is the official reply to the first time this question was asked. Given that for most users, the MSFS download is still in progress, perhaps you can wait a while and see what develops. This is the advice for Asobo. It also points out what is going on. Looking at the update on my screen, let's just say the photogrammetry isn't the most fetching I've seen on top of being fairly badly color matched with the surrounding. My suggestion is simply to update the package with an exclusion under your own landmarks so that they erase the photogrammetry, perhaps removing the bespoke landmarks that have been added by Asobo. Those are good. For those wondering about the value of their London City Pack add-on, don't worry. It still has a ton of value. Honestly, I don't think I'll be able to fly in London until it's reenabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crom UK Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I'm also unimpressed with the photogrammetry for London. Other areas like Rome are great but London. Meh. I'm tempted to move the London City Landmarks back to my Community folder and turn off Photogrammetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hargreaves Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 London city is currently 30% off in the ingame store (along with the other UK Orbx stuff), so Asobo aren't intending to kill it off just yet. I'm sure it will be edited to give a 'best of both worlds' package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferatu Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Quote I'm also unimpressed with the photogrammetry for London Agreed. I was getting good frames with the Orbx scenery for London. Now with the update, stutters galore, and London looks like it's been melted with a giant blow torch. Photogrammetry really needs more time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abriael Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Incidentally, now that we've got your attention, London City Airport is almost fine, but could use a tiny bit of attention in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanear Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I think a note on the Orbx and perhaps in sim Marketplace indicating this situation is in order. People buying the London pack today are likely to be unaware of the advice not to use this add on with the UK update for the foreseeable future? Since Orbx and Asobo/Microsoft do have a relationship I would have hoped this situation would be clearer, smoother. Especially if the London pack is still for sale with no indication of the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hargreaves Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Default London with photogrammetry looks like the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust to me, just looks like crumbling concrete as far as the eye can see. I think it was far better before the update just using Orbx London. Photogrammetry (at least Bing's version) isn't quite ready for this sort of use yet. Looking forward to getting the London scenery pack back in my sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeoffpro Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I absolutely agree with you John. So far I have always avoided these "Google Maps Converter sceneries. I don't like that and only a few things are useful. Now Microsoft is starting the same nonsense. The result is a "London" that just looks scary and also brings extreme losses in performance. The rest of the England update is fine, Liverpool POIs, but London is daunting. Really badly done and not worthy of an ASOBO. Olaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatron Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, John Hargreaves said: Default London with photogrammetry looks like the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust to me, just looks like crumbling concrete as far as the eye can see. I think it was far better before the update just using Orbx London. Photogrammetry (at least Bing's version) isn't quite ready for this sort of use yet. Looking forward to getting the London scenery pack back in my sim. I had almost the exact same thought (more akin to those end-of-days type movies where everything gets suddenly abandoned and then overgrown). Even flicked Orbx back on and it looks better again even with the anomalies (I seem to get a lot of weird shimmering in patches). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulk Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I notice the Asobo LCY default version has the new parallel taxiway added. I wonder if this is on the cards in a future Orbx LCY update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin T Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Based on a 3 hour sightseeing flight around London, the update seems unfinished. You can see the potential but it looks rushed out despite all the delays. The problems with the shimmering glitches and many of the buildings looking like Godzilla has given them a kicking have been mentioned already but how about the incomplete cable car, which starts on the north bank and then just stops, or the dog's dinners they've made of the Cutty Sark and Battersea Power Station? I hope Orbx's buildings can be re-inserted before long, that will improve things, but Asobo need to fix their work also. And was anyone else expecting a bit more than just travelcard zone 1? The suburbs look unchanged from what I could see and still no Crystal Palace TV mast, the biggest navigation landmark in South London. And on a trivial note, the boats are wrong. There should be tourist riverboats, not superyachts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyger Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Will not manual caching at highest resolution sort this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvidencePlz Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Abriael said: Incidentally, now that we've got your attention, London City Airport is almost fine, but could use a tiny bit of attention in the water. Not sure what went wrong here. Mine (Orbx EGLC) with London addon uninstalled post-uk-world-update looks absolutely fine and nothing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Correia Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/205264-compatibility-of-orbx-landmarks-london-city-pack-with-microsoft-world-update-united-kingdom/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abriael Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, paulk said: I notice the Asobo LCY default version has the new parallel taxiway added. I wonder if this is on the cards in a future Orbx LCY update? This is a very good question and I'd love to know the answer as well 1 hour ago, Ed Correia said: https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/205264-compatibility-of-Orbx-landmarks-london-city-pack-with-microsoft-world-update-united-kingdom/ Great, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanear Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Ed Correia said: https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/205264-compatibility-of-Orbx-landmarks-london-city-pack-with-microsoft-world-update-united-kingdom/ Thanks Ed, that's fantastic news! Ideally Orbx and Asobo would have worked together to have that available today. But it's fantastic it's coming soon and Orbx have found a way to retain and expand the value of their product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutloose Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Please Please Please fix and restore your HMS Belfast, I cannot believe that MS replaced it with a couple of yachts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Er!k Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 10:16 PM, Abriael said: Incidentally, now that we've got your attention, London City Airport is almost fine, but could use a tiny bit of attention in the water. I have the same issue with EGLC, hope there will be a patch soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi928 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I have baught EGLC and hope a patch too for the same water problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternT3 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 9:16 PM, Abriael said: Incidentally, now that we've got your attention, London City Airport is almost fine, but could use a tiny bit of attention in the water. I'm interested to see what Orbx do because the water issue is no longer water, it's several new remote stands and a taxiway going down to 27, hopefully they can update LCY to the new layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeym Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Had a search but other threads are closed now. I'm not here to 'have a go' at Orbx, just wanted to know if there had been any news on update to London Scenery if purchased via Marketplace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holger Sandmann Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Hi there, if you're referring to our initial compatibility update for World Update 3, that finally landed in the MS Marketplace a couple of weeks ago. It should be listed in your Content Manager as v 2.0.0. The larger update with new objects and further enhancements is still in progress; see https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/206241-london-landmarks-pack/ Cheers, Holger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeym Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Thanks for the info :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi928 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 We are always waiting for the EGLC patch which one was told to be in beta testing 15 days ago by Orbx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternT3 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Jedi928 said: We are always waiting for the EGLC patch which one was told to be in beta testing 15 days ago by Orbx! Beta testing isn't a 5 minute job, they have to make sure it works on a wide variety of sim/pc configurations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Hello, the topic is well and truly answered. Please try to be patient while this project is being worked upon. The versions that are presently available are perfectly useable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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