KlausL73 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Hi all, The issue i had with ESSA is related to object flow. I tried a couple of thing before posting here. The issue : When Object Flow is installed P3DV5 would launch until splashscreen then closes without warning. If OF is uninstalled P3D works fine but Orbx Airports (ESSA< KSAN) have crap ground textures. I tried : 1/ Uninstall my Orbx stuff (library, Global, ESSA, KSAN), then re install + verify = same issue 2/ Uninstall my Orbx stuff, create a new library folder + install libraries and Object Flow only = issue is persistent and P3D won't open. ANy guidance will be much appreciated. Everything works just fine with P3DV4.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 Any hits or indications on how i could solve this? @Nick Cooper or maybe @Mitchell Williamson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Hello, objectflow does not normally affect P3D in this way. Can you see any kind of error message? If not, try renaming your Prepar3D.cfg file and see if it will load. Hint: when testing, all that needs to be done is to tick or untick the add-ons entry and restart the simulator. Similarly with scenery. There is never a need to waste time uninstalling just to see if something works without something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane25 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Hi Nick, I have a similar problem, I have checked all the system files and no errors. Also tried renaming p3d.cfg as you suggested. I only get the ucrtbase.dll with objectflow enabled. I am not computer literate enough to replace the ucrtbase file with an older version. Kind regards Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 @Nick Cooper I tried all of above without success ...nothing worked I reinstalled P3d (Client Scenery Content) no success Finally reading the forum applied the following : Go to the ObjectFlow folder (depend where you set the library as ObjectFlow is not installed in default P3D folder - in my case library is set to below folder) : C:\Users\[YourName]\Orbx Library\p3dv5\Orbx ObjectFlow copy this folder to C:\Users\[YourName]\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Add-ons\ delete in this folder /bin folder and edit add-on.xml the path pointing the path to your library ObjectFlow folder path. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <SimBase.Document Type="AddOnXml" version="4,0" id="add-on"> <AddOn.Name>Orbx ObjectFlow</AddOn.Name> <AddOn.Description>Allows Orbx scenery to display dynamic content.</AddOn.Description> <AddOn.Component> <Category>DLL</Category> <Path>C:\Users\[YourName]\Orbx Library\p3dv5\Orbx ObjectFlow\bin\Orbx_ObjectFlow_v3.dll</Path> <DLLType>PDK</DLLType> <DLLStartName>module_init</DLLStartName> <DLLStopName>module_deinit</DLLStopName> </AddOn.Component> </SimBase.Document> It worked!!!!!!!!!!!! Something to look at on the dev side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Thanks, is objectflow working though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 Hi @Nick Cooper I was optimitic...it was late yesterday when i tried in the dll path above i missed the right drive...when i corrected i can confirm i am still facing the same issue with objectflow: - when OF it's installed or active i double click to launch P3D i have the splashscreen and then after 5 to 10 sec without warnings it crashes and disappears. - As soon as i inhibit ObjectFlow P3d starts normally if i go to ESSA i can see the buildings but i am missing the ground textures , this happens despite changing the library folder, after P3d client re install I am realizing now that i was flying without the Orbx products being fully active. It's frustrating I am out of ideas, and seeking help to get my sim to work with Orbx. I don't see what is the difference with P3dV4 as it is installed the same way, probably APIs or dll config. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane25 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I can confirm that p3dv5 starts with KlausL73 workaround because the objectflow dll is not present but issues like at ESSA are still present There is a direct conflict with objectflow dll and ucrtbase.dll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hello, it is not a workaround, is is just a way of inadvertently disabling objectflow. The best place to install objectflow is in an Orbx Central Library that is not inside any of the folders created by the installation of Windows. If you do not have such a folder, please create C:\Orbx Central Library and add it to Orbx Central as a new library. Then uninstall objectflow from wherever it is now and if an attempt has been made to "work around", delete every trace of that as well. Once done, install objectflow into C:\Orbx Central Library and try again. In case there are also remnants of previous installations, please take a look at this topic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hello May i ask where i should look for "delete every trace of that as well" , by that i mean all config files or xml files . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hello, you will need to undo what you posted here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 12 hours ago, Nick Cooper said: If you do not have such a folder, please create C:\Orbx Central Library and add it to Orbx Central as a new library. Then uninstall objectflow from wherever it is now and if an attempt has been made to "work around", delete every trace of that as well. Once done, install objectflow into C:\Orbx Central Library and try again. In case there are also remnants of previous installations, please take a look at this topic as well. All followed ...same odd result . I will try to install P3D in a laptop and give a go with Orbx there and see if its different. But from what i can see whenever the Orbx_ObjectFlow_v3.dll is in play my P3d won't start. Orbx_ObjectFlow_x64.dll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane25 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Same here. Didn't get to the splash screen Same ucrtbase error. Also only one instance of objectflow running. Regards Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, KlausL73 said: All followed ...same odd result . I will try to install P3D in a laptop and give a go with Orbx there and see if its different. But from what i can see whenever the Orbx_ObjectFlow_v3.dll is in play my P3d won't start. Orbx_ObjectFlow_x64.dll 158 kB · 1 download Hello, you seem to have attached an incompatible version of the objectflow module. That one is for P3D v4. If you would care to attach the right one, I will try it in my copy of P3D v5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane25 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Attached dll. Orbx_ObjectFlow_v3.dll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 mine here sorry ..ObjectFlow.log Orbx_ObjectFlow_v3.dll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hell, no surprise that my copy of P3D loads and works at ESSA with both files. Could you each attach a copy of your C:\Users\your name\AppData\Roaming\Orbx\ObjectFlow\ObjectFlow.log file please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 ObjectFlow.logHere it is .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hello, thanks. The log seems to state that you have nothing installed that uses objectflow. If that is the case, you can remove it with no ill effects. I attach a copy of mine to illustrate the sort of thing to expect, if there were any Orbx products. ObjectFlow.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Thanks Nick indeed that seems suspicious. I am going thorigh clean p3d re install now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlausL73 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 @Nick Cooper I have figured my addons was corrupted...did a clean new install of V5 , then synced with Orbx as described on Manuals. Everything works fine now . Sorry to have been a pain here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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