Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Hi, I have separated this out from another post about dark tiles turning light as that part has been resolved and it's probably easier to deal with this separately. I am seeing pronounced jagged silt streams in my sim, with some unnaturally straight edges in some areas, which didn't look so pronounced when I first got the area last year or in the Orbx website screenshots, but also I have a baked in pier that appears (pardon the pun) when Southern Alaska is running. My scenery order however clearly has PAVD way above SA which in turn is above OPen LC. Any ideas? Please ignore the lighter and darker difference on the silt below.....this was caused by a different issue which has now been solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 I still can't figure this one out. Any ideas anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Nyberg Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Hi! Just to rule out the obvious step, but you have tried to reinstall the scenery I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Nyberg Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I reeeeeemember that we had a similar issue once but damn i can't remember what the problem was. Think it was for FSX as well. So ok : SAK does not have any imagery for the Valdez bay and unless you are using another scenery (couldnt spot one) that is for the area then it should be the PAVD scenery that is not functioning. The imagery file has the water masked and the harbour thingy should not be visible: And this is of course how it is supposed to look (just checked so nothing was broken on my end haha): So yeah reinstall / verify files for SAK and PAVD and get back to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Sorry guys should have said, yes reintalled both SA and PAVD a few times to try fix it. also verified files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Marcus Nyberg said: I reeeeeemember that we had a similar issue once but damn i can't remember what the problem was. Think it was for FSX as well. So ok : SAK does not have any imagery for the Valdez bay and unless you are using another scenery (couldnt spot one) that is for the area then it should be the PAVD scenery that is not functioning. The imagery file has the water masked and the harbour thingy should not be visible: And this is of course how it is supposed to look (just checked so nothing was broken on my end haha): So yeah reinstall / verify files for SAK and PAVD and get back to us! really odd! I managed to clear the issue the other day by unchecking SAK in my scenery library but obviously not what I want to do really. The only scenery I have running that may impact this area is all ORBX and would be Global Base, Vector, OpenLC NA, SAK and PAVD. I also have pilots mesh but that shouldn't be an issue and whether it is 'on' or 'off' it doesn't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 I have run some more tests and the baked in pier is coming from SAK. First Image: Combined PAVD & SAK Second Image: SAK Only Third Image: PAVD Only Fourth image: PAVD & SAK disabled Should the PAVD scenery be blanking out those baked in images from SAK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Nyberg Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Hi! i need to have a look at that again, it’s been a while since I made that scenery. Remembered it as there was no imagery in Valdez in SAK. im away for the weekend but I’ll have a look early next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Kremlev Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Hi, Rob! Do you use the Envshade? When I use the Envshade the coastline looks like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 Hey there Eugene! No I have Envtex but I use PTA. This is more to do with baked in textures though, the piers and possibly other things I haven’t noticed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Kremlev Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Near the Valdez I have a similar the problem (water), but in my case the problem is solved by replacing the shaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Kremlev Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Hm, the problem exists. Shaders were not the cause. With the pier is also the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 I am glad I am not going mad! Thanks for checking it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Nyberg Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Hey guys, Ok, so I've got some good news regarding the issue. Well, I also have bad news as I still don't know why this is happening now (as it didnt use to happen) BUT I got a solution at least. So, yes FTX SAK includes some imagery for Valdez as well, I had totally forgotten about that. Your issue seems to be that that imagery for some reason clashes with the PAVD imagery, which should not happen. I think the absolute easiest solution at this point is simply to deactivate the imagery that comes with the FTX SAK package. You will find two files in (if installed with the library feature in ORBX Central, otherwise you'll find it ORBX/FTX_NA/ in the P3D folder): ORBX\P3Dv4\p3dv4\NA Southern Alaska\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_NA_SAK06_CVX\scenery Files: 2_orthoimage_AK_USGS2007_Valdez_harbor_60cm.BGL 2_orthoimage_AK_USGS2007_Valdez_refinery_60cm.BGL Change the name from .bgl to .OFF, or move the files to a back-up folder outside the P3D system, or remove them if you like living on the edge (you can always verify files later on and they should be installed again otherwise). I'll see where we went wrong and if we can push a minor patch for that so it works again! Sooo anway: With the files active: With the files removed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Great stuff, thanks Marcus, will do that. Gorgeous scenery by the way, this is one of my favourite areas and just done a video on the channel out of here. Just didn't look to closely at the piers ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Nyberg Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Thanks! Glad you like it. Let me know if it doesn’t solve the issue and I’ll continue on the path towards solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsofwings1 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Marcus Nyberg said: Thanks! Glad you like it. Let me know if it doesn’t solve the issue and I’ll continue on the path towards solutions. WOW! Works great and what an improvement!!! Thanks Marcus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Nyberg Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just wanted to add if anyone else is experiencing this issue as well and reading this thread that the installers have now been updated to address this and it should probably be enough just verifying your install to fix this issue at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Hobson Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Marcus, Does the installer update also address the "double pier" problem illustrated in post #7, image #1? Stew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Nyberg Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Stewart Hobson said: Marcus, Does the installer update also address the "double pier" problem illustrated in post #7, image #1? Stew Hi! I haven't checked that, but I would assume it's due to the same issue so yes that should be corrected as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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