EastCoastCanadian Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hello guys it’s me again, I’m running P3D V 4.5 with latest hot fix and I’m using ORBX Central. I’m curious to know if ORBX Global textures are installed in the P3D textures folder. Reason asking is that after installing ORBX Base, verifying files I have no ORBX base textures in my sim. Basically ORBX central is not installing the textures. I loaded up a default flight at New York’s La Gaurdia and there’s no autogen only the sky scrapers. Any help is greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hi, have you installed the Orbx Libraries, and made sure they are installed to the simulator ORBX folder, not a separate external folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Doug Sawatzky said: Hi, have you installed the Orbx Libraries, and made sure they are installed to the simulator ORBX folder, not a separate external folder? Ok maybe that may be my issue, it’s late here where I am tonight so I’ll check this out tomorrow and report back. Where would I find the ORBX Libraries folder? When I go to ORBX it says install libraries but it doesn’t give me the option to choose the ORBX folder. It’s showing that I have FTX Libraries in my scenery menu in P3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It is the same folder that everything Orbx gets installed to when you are not using the .xml method. It is located in the root simulator folder. If you click on install you should be presented with an option as shown below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 Good day Doug I done everything that had to be done this morning with regards to installing everything into the P3D root folder and everything is working fine except global. I can’t understand what’s going on there I mean all my regions are working fine like Open LC, Northern California, etc but I go to a default location where there should only be Global textures and there is none. I also uninstalled the P3D scenery module and reinstalled it to see if there was an issue with that then I reinstalled global again and it’s still not showing. I can’t remember if I had this issue with FTX Central 3 or not. I really hope I don’t have to do a complete reinstall as I was planning on saving that for a V5 if there is one lol. Have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 12 hours ago, Navigator16 said: I go to a default location where there should only be Global textures and there is none. What does this mean exactly? Maybe please post a couple screenshots with coordinates from the shift+z keys so we could compare.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: What does this mean exactly? Maybe please post a couple screenshots with coordinates from the shift+z keys so we could compare.. Like in the Fort McMurray, Alberta area for an example I got no autogen I’ll post a screen shot later to show you. I’m sure Fort McMurray uses just Global Textures or is it used with Northern Rocky Mountain textures. I had the city there before ORBX Central and now the autogen is gone. I’ll post the pic later when I get off work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 First two pics are New York city as you can see there's no autogen buildings only Sky Scrapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 These two pics are Fort McMurray, Alberta CYMM again no autogen. Global doesn't seem to be working at all thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Hobson Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 My understanding is that Global Base involves replacing default textures and doesn't have anything to do with autogen. Since you say you have installed the Orbx Libs, I suspect you haven't installed ObjectFlow yet. It doesn't look like that possibility has been mentioned yet. I'm sure Doug will weigh in here eventually, but that's my suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Thanks Stew I never imagined Objectflow being responsible for all autogen, but it is certainly worth confirming it is installed correctly. So, @Navigator16You will need to go to settings/Libraries and create a new Library in a location of your choosing, this is required for the installation of ObjectFlow 2 for Orbx Central, then it will be installed and use 7mb of space in that new folder, and everything will work properly. You do not need to use this folder for anything else, Orbx Central will then give you the choice to install your products to that folder or to the root simulator folder. Could you also, Please post a copy of your “scenery.cfg” file and the “add-ons.cfg” and the “scenery_add-ons.xml” file found at C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Doug Sawatzky said: Thanks Stew I never imagined Objectflow being responsible for all autogen, but it is certainly worth confirming it is installed correctly. So, @Navigator16You will need to go to settings/Libraries and create a new Library in a location of your choosing, this is required for the installation of ObjectFlow 2 for Orbx Central, then it will be installed and use 7mb of space in that new folder, and everything will work properly. You do not need to use this folder for anything else, Orbx Central will then give you the choice to install your products to that folder or to the root simulator folder. Could you also, Please post a copy of your “scenery.cfg” file and the “add-ons.cfg” and the “scenery_add-ons.xml” file found at C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4. I’ve already have that done with the library folder, the only two things that are in there is Object flow and ORBX Buildings. I’m upload my scenery CFG shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 Hi Doug please see attached files add-ons.cfg scenery.cfg scenery_add-ons.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Thanks I see you Orbx Libraries are too low in the scenery library order, they should be at the top of the Orbx block, then you may have to reset the insertion point in Orbx Central to resemble the description below. Then you can go to settings/Insertion Point and set them like this. Ensure all of your 3rd party non Orbx addons are at the top of your scenery library and above your FTX entries. Then in Orbx Central Insertion points "Orbx Airports and Regions”, put your last non Orbx 3rd party listed in your scenery library addon in the INSERTED BELOW window. Then for the "Orbx Global openLC” ensure the Orbx Airports and Regions are in the INSERTED BELOW window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Hello Navigator 16. Objectflow has indeed nothing to do with autogen. It is the means by which developers are able to control windsocks and enable scenery objects to display at certain times and not at others. For example, Jarrad uses it to display snow covered roofs in winter, Misha uses it to add a barbeque at Sekiu in summer on saturdays. I do understand that even if all the autogen is in place, unless there are matching autogen descriptions, that autogen will not show. The art of autogen seems to be something of a Pandora's Box and it is possible for one developer to add to or amend autogen descriptions that can exclude another developer's autogen. I am unable to say for certain what is happening here but it seems somehow odd that the Orbx Global autogen is missing, whereas the Orbx regional autogen is seemingly present. I understand that the Orbx autogen descriptions are written in during the installation of the Orbx Libraries, something which you apparently had trouble with. I would suggest that if they are not installed into the P3D folder, as Doug suggested some time ago, that they are uninstall and installed there. If they really are installed, verify files should have the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 Thanks for the answers guys I’ll try what Doug mentioned above and report back. I normally use Sim Starter to arrange my scenery CFG would that tool cause anything abnormal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I am not sure about sim starter, but as Nick has suggested, I would also do a verify files of the Orbx libraries after you move them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doug Sawatzky said: I am not sure about sim starter, but as Nick has suggested, I would also do a verify files of the Orbx libraries after you move them. Ok I’m doing that now see what I come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 OK how does my scenery CFG look now scenery.cfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Hello, what are the Europe and North America entries at the end of the library please? I am just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Yes, that looks fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, what are the Europe and North America entries at the end of the library please? I am just curious. That’s probably toposim mesh I bought it online he’s name is Justin he used to run genesis mesh for FSX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 Ok so after all that Global is still not working. My regions are working fine so I’ll just keep flying around the regions until another update comes out from LM or whatever. In the meantime if yourselves come up with any possible solution not mentioned please inform me. Maybe in the future I’ll do a clean install I just don’t have time to be at it at the moment. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 The only other thing I can recall is reading reports about some FlyTampa installs removing autogen from various areas., so maybe try deactivating all your Flytampa stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Hobson Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Navigator16 said: Thanks for the answers guys I’ll try what Doug mentioned above and report back. I normally use Sim Starter to arrange my scenery CFG would that tool cause anything abnormal? I use SimStarter, too, and have had few, if any, problems using it to arrange my scenery, both 3rd-party addons and Orbx stuff. The important tool, that being said however, is the insertion point tool in Orbx Central. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stewart Hobson said: I use SimStarter, too, and have had few, if any, problems using it to arrange my scenery, both 3rd-party addons and Orbx stuff. The important tool, that being said however, is the insertion point tool in Orbx Central. Good luck! Yeah Sim Starter is a great tool I use it for other stuff as well not just scenery. But yeah I set everything up with insertion points like Doug mentioned. Who knows Global may just come back to life some day haha if it do I’ll certainly let you guys know happy flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Guys what is this legacy layering I’m seeing in ORBX Central would it have anything to do with my issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Hello, it is just the system that was used before the new system. You could try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, it is just the system that was used before the new system. You could try it. Ok I’ll give a go see what happens. I flew around England this morning with just Europe open LC and again no houses or buildings just some sky scrapers. I went ahead and installed the England region and everything’s there. This is one puzzling problem that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Think what I’m going to do is completely uninstall all my ORBX products then do a fresh install using FTX Central 3 so I can actually rule out ORBX Central as the culprit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Ok ORBX team I moved back to FTX Central after doing a complete clean install of all my ORBX sceneries my autogen is back and everything’s back to normal. So hopefully this thread will help the other simmers out there. I want to say thanks to you the ORBX team for helping me out it’s greatly appreciated. ORBX central needs to be fixed before I move ahead thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Thanks for the feedback and I am sorry that we could not help you more. There is something the matter with autogen but not normally to the extent that you found and I am told that the matter is being investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastCanadian Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nick Cooper said: Thanks for the feedback and I am sorry that we could not help you more. There is something the matter with autogen but not normally to the extent that you found and I am told that the matter is being investigated. No problem Nick have a great day or evening wherever you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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