John Venema Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Hello all, We have been working with the (now in-house) Turbulent Aviation team on establishing a true end-to-end PBR workflow for the creation of P3D/XP11 airports. You will soon be shown some spectacular preview shots of our first airport to be built using 100% compliance to the correct PBR standards for all materials. This workflow allows us to release for both P3Dv4 and XP11 at the same time, or near enough to the same time, scheduling permitting. In the meantime, let me preview you two screenshots which highlight the details not only on the ground services equipment but also on the apron on which they sit. To view these full size, click on each so it appears in its own broswer tab, then click again to zoom. The incredible level of detail on the baggage lifter does not mean it is an FPS hog. The original model was made up of over 24 million polygons and that model was used to create the PBR map for a lower poly target. This means you get the benefit of insane amounts of detail without the high-poly penalty. Likewise, with the entire airport being PBR, the apron reflects light based on each material used such as asphalt, paint, metal grates and puddles etc. The lighting changes depending on the time of day, level of cloud cover, rain etc. Please don't ask where this airport is; we won't reveal it until it is in beta, which should be around the end of this month or early May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadtom65 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Looking very good and looking forward to the release and probably getting it for maybe Xplane first. Mmmmm now I wonder which Airport it could be. Derek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT8D9A Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 wow, looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1252 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Very impressive. Looking forward to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmorin Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Very impressive detail! I am excited about the new technology. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmR1991 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 ORBX Frankfurt coming soon! <3 God damn - this is a new level of detail! :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTigerM Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Incredible detail. May I ask if there will be P3D, XP version start points for this technology & the new airports? ie, you will need P3D v4.4 & onwards in P3D? & for XP? TTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveller Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, John Venema said: [...] This workflow allows us to release for both P3Dv4 and XP11 at the same time, or near enough to the same time, scheduling permitting.[...] Quote Very promising this workflow. If everything happens as planned, it will really be a major improvement in production efficiency for both simulators. Good luck to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski12133 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Can't wait to do some A318 flights to JFK form this airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRingill Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I hope it’s somewhere on the TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike707 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 4 hours ago, John Venema said: two screenshots which highlight the details not only on the ground services equipment but also on the apron on which they sit. Question for you. Can PBR be done on generic runway and apron textures in P3D? Reason I ask is it would be great to fly into any airport and see some level of PBR on all runways and aprons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david broome Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Looks superb. I think EGLC London and EGCC Manchester will do nicely to go with TE South and Central me, me me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taph Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Interesting, can this technology be retro fitted to existing Airports or would they need to be built again from scratch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 You cannot retro-fit PBR. It is an integral part of the core design process and adds at least 25% more development time. For this reason our 100% PBR airports will carry a premium price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Looks fantastic! Glad I'm on this bus! I'm also glad I am a bit older and have seen the evolution of flight sims since the beginning. Change and advances used to come so slowly. Remember how long it took until we could fill our screens with autogen without a slideshow happening? Times they are a changin' - on this technological hyperbolic curve that we are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david broome Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, John Venema said: You cannot retro-fit PBR. It is an integral part of the core design process and adds at least 25% more development time. For this reason our 100% PBR airports will carry a premium price tag. That suggests airports not previously given the OrbX treatment, or does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishunt Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 If you haven't zoomed in on these images the you're not fully seeing the incredible level of detail. Not just the vehicles but the white lines also. They look 3D when zoomed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFella Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Nice. Finally a good looking EGLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Er!k Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Very nice! I also think it is London City airport. Compare gate 9 to Google Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Very nice, can't wait to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfirth Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Er!k said: Very nice! I also think it is London City airport. Compare gate 9 to Google Maps I think you'll find its actually gate 6 If so, BUG REPORT: the dashed yellow line into the gate is possibly slightly misrepresented... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFella Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, kevinfirth said: I think you'll find its actually gate 6 If so, BUG REPORT: the dashed yellow line into the gate is possibly slightly misrepresented... Its a dead give away. Keep in mind that we don´t know how old Google Map imagery is. Maybe ORBX´s is simply more up to date and therefor correct. Anyhow, very much looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fage Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Looks simply outstanding. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merowinger Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I don't regret any second bought an RTX 2080TI! It is worth more and more everytime I see such amazing pictures! Things like PBR will be the future in P3D and these methods implemented into the sim will cure the disadvantage of the ESP single core CPU-engine. Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangjuice81 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, KaiUweWeiss said: I don't regret any second bought an RTX 2080TI! It is worth more and more everytime I see such amazing pictures! Things like PBR will be the future in P3D and these methods implemented into the sim will cure the disadvantage of the ESP single core CPU-engine. Kai There is a benefit to the rtx cores in the rtx 20xx, but soon gtx will get raytracing implemented. But you don't need rtx to use pbr or see it's effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merowinger Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, tangjuice81 said: But you don't need rtx to use pbr or see it's effects For the moment this could be right, but who knows the future of P3D? Getting the look and feel like XPlane e.g. there is still to do a little bit. By the way, upgrading from GTX1080TI to RTX2080TI gaves me a great performanceimprovement, especially for DR and SSAA-Settings. Everything is nearly maxed out with a great performance and visuals; in the darkness too of course. Even with texture_size_exp=10 setting. Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lars Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Amazing detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Wow impressive stunning look! Is it Perth International? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caluma65 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Wow!! This is incredibly impressive!! Cheers, Calum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLonger Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Well, I have to say... that looks impressive...! Totally awesome! Terrible shame we will not see effects like these in the sim itself and older addons... If you get used to airports with these effects the rest of the sim will start to look outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain71 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 wow, fantastic looking stuff.....great work put in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lars Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 7:08 AM, carlosqr said: Wow impressive stunning look! Is it Perth International? Perth would blow me away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longranger241 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 The airport is praobably identified as EGLC. Since this airport was already confirmed as a new airport and the only one of the new slot in the south, this seems to be a pretty certain bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVSandleben Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 7:08 AM, carlosqr said: Wow impressive stunning look! Is it Perth International? It is most definately London City: https://www.google.de/maps/@51.5044698,0.0473465,97m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKar Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 But what would that LDL do on the London City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJohnJohn Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Hint on location please? It looks awesome, glad orbx is going the PBR way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, JohnnyJohnJohn said: Hint on location please? It looks awesome, glad orbx is going the PBR way! Would you mind looking upon any of the previous posts? Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJohnJohn Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, pmb said: Would you mind looking upon any of the previous posts? Kind regards, Michael Would you mind letting me do as I please? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 All these and more were mentioned on the 2019 roadmap so can be either of them NZNV Invercargill KSGU St George Regional Airport LEAS Asturias KBUR Burbank Bob Hope Airport ENBO Bodø KDAL Dallas Love Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVSandleben Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Could be. But as I linked to a aerial photograph of the exact gate in google maps it should be not hard to see that the markings are a complete match. I don't see how one needs to guess any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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