BobT Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Hi folks! I just got GB north up and running and it looks marvelous but I noticed there are no decals (gritty textures) on the orthos like there are in GB South and Central. Was this missed or is it intentional? I love the decals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFella Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Decals? Do you mean the roads and stuff, being layed over the ortho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) No...you are speaking of the overlay. Decals are "gritty textures" that are added to the orthos in processing that give the look of gravel dirt or grass to the blurry textures at or near ground level. Edited January 30, 2019 by BobT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFella Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Ok. Have you checked the order of your installation (scenerypacks.ini)? Unlike central and south north does have two folders of overlays (and I suspect, that gravel and grass textures would be in such a folder). The order should be Orbx_A_GB_North_TrueEarth_CustomOrbx_B_GB_North_TrueEarth_OverlayOrbx_C_GB_North_TrueEarth_OverlayOrbx_D_GB_North_TrueEarth_Orthos Maybe Overlay B and C have been switched up, which you aren´t seeing grass and gravel...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks FlyingFella for the input. The order is in sequence A B C D in the Custom scenery ini. I have made many tiles with ortho4xp and decals are introduced in the processing of the tiles as an option. I would assume the same applies with these Orbx products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRingill Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) I think I read somewhere that the decals will be removed for TEGB because they create quite an ugly pattern when wieved from altitude. I for one am really glad they are not there in the north scenery and if I understood correctly they will be removed for South and Central with the upcoming servicepacks. A matter of taste I guess Edited January 30, 2019 by DunRingill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaboki Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Havent noticed any ugly patterns with decals, wich altitude are we talking about...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) https://www.helisimmer.com/downloads/x-plane/utilities/terrain-append-for-x-plane I haven't noticed anything weird at altitude with the decals in GB South. I found this utility to add decals to orthos. Hmmm....anybody tried it? Edited January 30, 2019 by BobT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRingill Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 perhaps we are not even talking about the same thing here but take look at pic nr 5, the stripes are clearly visible. Sorry If I have misunderstood the topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, DunRingill said: perhaps we are not even talking about the same thing here but take look at pic nr 5, the stripes are clearly visible. Sorry If I have misunderstood the topic Yup I see them, extremely faint as they are. From previous experience with my own orthos, I had the decal artifacts show up much worse than this after an update to a beta version of XP... which I fixed by reverting to an earlier version of XP. So that suggests the artifacts can be attributed to the version of XPlane that one is using. I am still on XP .26 and don't see artifacts with Central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wroblewski Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This was intentional, however based on feedback it's likely we'll have to create a control panel option to enable them. The problem is that they can produce an ugly pattern at higher altitudes when the terrain is green. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaboki Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Yes an options would be awsome, like its a nice thing too have for low and slow.. Thank you In general more control panel options would be nice, also a toggle for static airplanes at payware airports... Edited January 31, 2019 by kaboki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRingill Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I agree, an option in the controlpanel for the decals sounds good Perhaps more options if possible, like in GEN and GES where you can control both looks and performance with a lot of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 hours ago, tonywob said: This was intentional, however based on feedback it's likely we'll have to create a control panel option to enable them. The problem is that they can produce an ugly pattern at higher altitudes when the terrain is green. Thanks Tony, the control panel option is a great idea. However, I tried the little terrain append app and the decals installed nicely. (Backed up the terrain folder just in case). It would seem that not all decals result in an ugly pattern at altitude. Maybe it's just an issue of which decals are being used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) hi I like the decals too good for helicopters Edited February 3, 2019 by sol404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBart Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 10:17 AM, tonywob said: This was intentional, however based on feedback it's likely we'll have to create a control panel option to enable them. The problem is that they can produce an ugly pattern at higher altitudes when the terrain is green. @tonywob, I would very very appreciate that as well. As I stated in a different topic I don‘t mind them during cruise, however especially during low level vfr flights they help a lot with estimating your actual height. Regards, SEB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 hi I tried the terrain append app it worked thanks for that but its not so grainy as the central region so you don see it so well at the same altitudes, are there any parameters or setting to make the decals look the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 BobT thanks for the reply in the other post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgorton Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 hours ago, sol404 said: BobT thanks for the reply in the other post If you want to use terrain append still, this one worked for me. It's more grainy than the default one supplied with terrain append and looks to my untrained eye quite similar to the one used in South and Central. Don't forget to remove existing decals before applying, then just type as per the screenshot..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wroblewski Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 The maquify_1_green_key.dcl is the same one used in South and Central. It can give a repeating pattern when used over green terrain (hence the name). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Thanks Tony. Fantastic scenery. I'm rather addicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 that done the job big thanks Scotland looks great nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyDonald Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Well done. Now us low flying Heli fans can enjoy Scotland. This should be returned to TE GB North as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 is there any way of reducing the increase in the green when decals are on I noticed that since I removed the barton overlay (as suggested in forum) it also removed the decals? and the difference in the colour of the roads in particular is much better without decals I really like the decals but the green spoils badly any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) Not sure, but maybe a different decal applied would not be as green. I thought though that decals were just textures and not colored. Other than that, I read that the roads colors will be updated in the near future to a darker hue in an update. Edited February 22, 2019 by BobT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I hope they don't make the roads darker I think they should be lighter (that's what makes the defence on the barton overlay the roads show more clearly its also better in the towns houses and gardens without decals) BobT thanks i'll have a look at other decals, but It would be good to have a better idea of what going on and how it all works the green really spoils the ortho roads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John90 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Hello. Installed true earth north to find no decal textures. I do think it makes the product look a bit poor. I have noticed the repeating pattern with the other two regions but it's nothing too bad. If I could make one suggestion. Using a finer grained decal seems to fix the issue of the repeating pattern and looks great at low alt. I've used grass and dirt 2 or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 colours and decals on the new Ture Earth Washington are really good why is the UK so dark and green especially the roads when xplane roads are off im still really bothered about the fact that there are discrepancies between the UK regions and the fact that Scotland came with Decals off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wroblewski Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 This is due to the source imagery and what we had to work with for the UK. The US imagery is actually more consistent and this is because in the UK there are very tight restrictions on ATC and of course the weather which makes the aerial imagery harder (and more expensive) to obtain. As for the decals, we are working on a control panel option that will allow users to enable/disable decals for any of our TrueEarth regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol404 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 thanks Tony its a great product look forward to the control panel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph1p0 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Hey Tony. Decals are nice while moving arround at airports. Maybe you can add them only at airports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu1985 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 7/16/2019 at 3:07 PM, Tony Wroblewski said: This is due to the source imagery and what we had to work with for the UK. The US imagery is actually more consistent and this is because in the UK there are very tight restrictions on ATC and of course the weather which makes the aerial imagery harder (and more expensive) to obtain. As for the decals, we are working on a control panel option that will allow users to enable/disable decals for any of our TrueEarth regions. Hello, How about this enable/disable decals option for the TrueEarth regions? I've seen it on canary Islands, but I can't find any option for True Earth Great Britain south or central, with enhanced skyscape, the result is actually pretty bad and there is a very obvious grid... Would be great to have this choice open for each True Earth product! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Clarke Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 To my knowledge there are no plans but we can check with @Ed Correia about any planned updates to TE addons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu1985 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 7:13 AM, Jon Clarke said: To my knowledge there are no plans but we can check with @Ed Correia about any planned updates to TE addons. Would be great! True Earth products are still being used! The enable/disable decals option would be much welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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