HammerTime Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I certainly notice the difference in elevation after opening the bgls... FAA INFORMATION EFFECTIVE 31 JANUARY 2019 Location FAA Identifier: GPI Lat/Long: 48-18-37.8000N / 114-15-21.6000W 48-18.630000N / 114-15.360000W 48.3105000 / -114.2560000 (estimated) Elevation: 2976.8 ft. / 907.3 m (surveyed) Skyvector has airport elevation at 2977ft, as does Navigraph... Opening the two files in ADE: Herve's updated bgl has the airport elevation at 907.389m = 2976.99ft Your KGPI_ADEP4_GRJ.bgl has the elevation at 905.00m = 2969.16ft... 2m lower which would certainly explain the sunken areas with the modified world scenery bgl active. I have amassed a multitude of Orbx products, as well as third party airports, happily sitting alongside navaid/world updates and I only chipped in as this the only airport where elevation issues haven't been resolved by deactivating conflicting Orbx Vector bgl's / running the vector elevation tool Merely a genuine question out of curiosity (and I appreciate the comments so far) however, where did you take your elevation data from to settle at 905m? Part of me suspects that if your product more closely matched real world elevation then people with modified world scenery bgl's wouldn't have an issue as your scenery would be sitting on top of the modified bgl. The modified bgl would be loaded (due to being unable to do an exclude) but never seen as yours would sit on top. And those without a modified bgl wouldn't have an issue either as you have previously explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaJet Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 10:10 AM, Harry320 said: I also use FSAD and did what Harald posted. It solved my elevation problems at KGPI. Thanks for the post Harald. Jerry Hi, i use fsArodata and had elevation problems also at KGPI. I've disabled fsAerodata, reopened fsAerodata Configuration Tool and chose options, unchecked "ICAO Identifiers" and enabled fsAerodata again. This solved my elevation problem regards, Harald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Hi Greg I confirm my issue was solved, (I guess with the last Libraries update) which was the Runway disappearing I have no elevations issues no other weird programs installed, thank you Cheers Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helberger Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 1:47 PM, Nick Cooper said: I see that you have posted the same question again without answering the question asked. Hi Nick, Sorry for the double post amid some confusion. I seem to have fixed my problem by doing the following: Uninstalled KGPI from FTX Central 3 Reinstalled KGPI Used the APX17140.bgl file which you attached in note #73, I used the Hervé Sors' navdata for NA which planted the incorrect .BGL file Run "Verify Files" for KGPI Run "Verify Files" for OrbxLibs" Started P3D V4 and it looked OK to me, no elevation spots that I could tell. Thanks for your patience. Helmut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Jones Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 20 hours ago, HammerTime said: Merely a genuine question out of curiosity (and I appreciate the comments so far) however, where did you take your elevation data from to settle at 905m? Hi mate, That's a good question. The answer, once again comes back to FSX/P3D's requirement for flat airports. The default airports are, for the most part set at the altitude according the available airport data at the time. Although the Airport Reference Point is at that actual altitude, each end of the runways, taxiways, aprons and parts of the surroundings generally are not. The variance can be very small but in most cases that I've come across, it's a good few metres. If you look at the airport boundaries of default airports you'll see where the fixed altitude meets the varied height usually in the form of a small cliff. When building airports we try to take this variance into account and counter it by smoothing the terrain around the boundary so that it's not noticeable. This is usually fairly straightfoward, but in cases where ground polygon is very large, we sometimes have to lift or drop the height of the entire airport in order to make the smoothing both easier and more believable. Hopefully that makes some sense! Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 9:57 PM, Doug Sawatzky said: Yes, that would be a problem. Also, if your username has a character such as "&" it will not work. You should have 3 files for OF2 to work: OF_Config.xml in P3Dv4\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_ORBXLIBS\Scenery Orbx_ObjectFlow_x64.dll in C:\Users\[YOUR NAME]\AppData\Local\Orbx\FTXCentral\newest version add-on.xml in C:\Users\[YOUR NAME]\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Orbx ObjectFlow 2 These files all do exist, yet there is no Object Flow menu within the P3d add-ons. It is also checked on in FTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Does you PC username have a character such as "&" in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 Excellent commentary and discussion Devs. Much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 9:33 AM, Doug Sawatzky said: Does you PC username have a character such as "&" in it? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Ok, could you please post a copy of the two below .xml files. OF_Config.xml in P3Dv4\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_ORBXLIBS\Scenery add-on.xml in C:\Users\[YOUR NAME]\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Orbx ObjectFlow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: Ok, could you please post a copy of the two below .xml files. OF_Config.xml in P3Dv4\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_ORBXLIBS\Scenery add-on.xml in C:\Users\[YOUR NAME]\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Orbx ObjectFlow 2 OF_Config: <DynPlacement.Document> <Config> <Paths> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KSBA\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KCGX\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KGPI\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KHQM\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KIDA\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KMBS\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KPSP\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KSAN\scenery</Path> <Path>ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_YOSEMITE\scenery</Path> </Paths> </Config> </DynPlacement.Document> add-on.xml: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <SimBase.Document Type="AddOnXml" version="4,0" id="add-on"> <AddOn.Name>Orbx ObjectFlow 2</AddOn.Name> <AddOn.Description>Allows Orbx scenery to display dynamic content.</AddOn.Description> <AddOn.Component> <Category>DLL</Category> <Path>C:\Users\bhorv\AppData\Local\Orbx\FTXCentral\v3.3.4.5\Orbx_ObjectFlow_x64.dll</Path> <DLLStartName>module_init</DLLStartName> <DLLStopName>module_deinit</DLLStopName> </AddOn.Component> </SimBase.Document> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Thanks Please remove/cut and paste the add-on.xml to your desktop and open FTXC3 and do a "Verify Files" of the Orbx Libs and try with the newly created add-on.xml. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: Thanks Please remove/cut and paste the add-on.xml to your desktop and open FTXC3 and do a "Verify Files" of the Orbx Libs and try with the newly created add-on.xml. Thanks - removed the previous add-on.xml and had FTX create a new by verifying LIbs. Still not getting the OF menu in Add ons. Just another thought - I was having a lot of issues with FTX in that I was not able to download any scenery from FTX. I had to always download the zip file from the website, and then use FTX to install. Suddenly, that is now working, but I'm curious if these issues are related. Perhaps some files are missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sawatzky Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 No, but is your UAC turned off? Are you running FTXC3 as administrator? Are you logged into your PC as administrator? Are you running P3D as administrator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Doug Sawatzky said: No, but is your UAC turned off? Are you running FTXC3 as administrator? Are you logged into your PC as administrator? Are you running P3D as administrator? UAC is off. I'm not logged in as admin nor do I run P3d or FTX as admin either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Hello, could you change your User Account to an administrator, at least as a test? Then run FTX Central again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Cooper said: Hello, could you change your User Account to an administrator, at least as a test? Then run FTX Central again. My user account is the admin. Tried launched FTX again, still no OF menu in P3d addons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 hours ago, bhorv67 said: I'm not logged in as admin This does not say the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Cooper said: This does not say the same thing? I misspoke earlier, my user account is the admin on my system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 You should also have C:\Users\ bhorv\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\add-ons.cfg. It should contain the text [Package.0] PATH=C:\Users\bhorv\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Orbx ObjectFlow 2 ACTIVE=true REQUIRED=false Also, are you looking at the right P3D menu, the one accessed from the scenerio page at the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Cooper said: You should also have C:\Users\ bhorv\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\add-ons.cfg. It should contain the text [Package.0] PATH=C:\Users\bhorv\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Orbx ObjectFlow 2 ACTIVE=true REQUIRED=false Also, are you looking at the right P3D menu, the one accessed from the scenerio page at the bottom? Think you found the issue. This entry was not in this add-ons.cfg. I'm adding it now, and will report back. Appreciate the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhorv67 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Does the order matter? Meaning can I add this at the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 It should have been added automatically. If you want to try a manual edit, make sure that the [Package.X] number follows on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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