franck66 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 OK diversification through Xplane it's very good to increase benefits but wath about the FTX/P3D users, could we expect a new US region to complete our world ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradB Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I have been hoping for SRM (Southern Rocky Mountains) to come to fruition , maybe some day ...... Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmorin Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, BradB said: I have been hoping for SRM (Southern Rocky Mountains) to come to fruition , maybe some day ...... Cheers John +1 Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifejogger Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 14 hours ago, BradB said: I have been hoping for SRM (Southern Rocky Mountains) to come to fruition , maybe some day ...... Cheers John My hope too!!!!!! Specially the San Juan Mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiki Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Hawaii!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripcord Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 8:39 PM, BradB said: I have been hoping for SRM (Southern Rocky Mountains) to come to fruition , maybe some day ...... Cheers John +1 more here. It has to happen eventually... it just has to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 7:39 PM, BradB said: I have been hoping for SRM (Southern Rocky Mountains) to come to fruition , maybe some day ...... Cheers John Yes, all this are would be interesting There is also an area uncovered that could be made as an extension or update to either SAK or PFJ I think the North East Coast would be great including all south-east of Canada, Toronto, Otawa, Montreal & Quebec. Too much wishing list for Santa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Abernathy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 """""There is also an area uncovered that could be made as an extension or update to either SAK or PFJ""""" Hi Carlos, There is a scenery called Tongass Fjords https://fsaddonshop.com/products/tongass-fjords-x that fills in the area you noted as needing an extention/update. It works great alongside Orbx. Once you have it there are multiple threads explaining how to get it to play nice with either FSX or P3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rob Abernathy said: """""There is also an area uncovered that could be made as an extension or update to either SAK or PFJ""""" Hi Carlos, There is a scenery called Tongass Fjords https://fsaddonshop.com/products/tongass-fjords-x that fills in the area you noted as needing an extention/update. It works great alongside Orbx. Once you have it there are multiple threads explaining how to get it to play nice with either FSX or P3D. Hi Rob Thank you very much for this information. Now I understand why it was left "uncovered" I'll take a look at it Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquireAus Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I was wondering when the east coast of the US will be covered by Orbx. There are a lot of regions there, New England, Mid Atlantic etc What about the Southwest of the United States on the border with Mexico (Arizona, New Mexico)? As well as Nevada and New Mexico as mentioned above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconAF Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, SquireAus said: What about the Southwest of the United States on the border with Mexico (Arizona, New Mexico)? As well as Nevada and New Mexico as mentioned above? Desert areas have always been avoided by most serious scenery developers (exceptions being photoreal and some attempts at texture/landclass combinations like GEX). It is darn near impossible to get a "realistic" ground presentation with texture/landclass for a wide geographic area that is mostly sand/parched earth and scrub brush area. Photoreal is usually the best representation, but photoreal will normally always end up being "one color palette fits all", which does not represent what someone will see in a desert environment...the desert colors out here in the U.S. southwest change colors numerous times during the day depending on lighting conditions (which photoreal scenery can't do). Plus, "low and slow" over a desert for sight-seeing isn't going to be very inspiring for very long. There just aren't many POI's to "explore" or "discover". For a developer to do something like northern Africa or even most of the state of Nevada as a dedicated scenery project isn't going to be very appealing to a majority of the simming community. Seriously...how many of us fly over the extended outback areas of ORBX Australia on a regular basis? Low and slow? Looking at the "pretty scenery" there? I live in Nevada. I love what ORBX has done for the southern Las Vegas area of Nevada they included in the SOCAL Region product. But there is "stuff" down here that makes it worth having in my sim. Not so much when I fly north of Las Vegas all the way to Oregon/Idaho though (exception being the Lake Tahoe area, which ORBX also included in their region products). For most of Nevada, I have Nevada photoreal scenery when I want to fly there. At best, ORBX might do the rest of the southwest U.S. as a TrueEarth photoreal project, but even then there wouldn't be much of anything else in the geography to see (like autogen, airports, POI's, etc). Southern Rockies? Yes, I could see that. But the question with current scenery technology is should it be texture/landclass based, or TrueEarth now? I'm guessing ORBX is leaning towards more TrueEarth nowadays. Heck, they are going to REDO the entire Pacific Northwest in TrueEarth. That should be an indication of what the future of texture/landclass products will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vora Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Years ago, when it was possible, people had put their whole OrbX shopping lists into their signatures, and on these you could easily see that NRM and CRM were by far the least popular regions of the OrbX catalogue. I guess that was the reason why SRM had fallen off the to-do-list back then. Also, as Falcon wrote, deserts aren't really suitable for LC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe777 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 One vote for extending Alaska upwards...... we want more ! And, there are many small airfields that could be developed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Rest of Alaska would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Q Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I too would love to see a Southern Rocky Mountain region, but let's extend it a little farther easy and South to include Colorado and at least northern New Mexico: Chama, Antonito and the great steam narrow gauge railroad that connects them. Also Taos, NM and nearby area. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Q Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Further thoughts on the Southwest: I think FalconAF is right on his observation on desert scenery, and the NA landclass portrays this scenery very well. But how about some payware airports with accompanying cityscapes. Santa Fe, Albuquerque and Tuscon (with the Puma Air Museum and the famous "boneyard" included) come to mind. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbrindles Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 12:09 PM, Gabe777 said: One vote for extending Alaska upwards...... we want more ! And, there are many small airfields that could be developed as well. On 10/30/2018 at 12:21 PM, mikee said: Rest of Alaska would be great Me Too! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 4:58 AM, FalconAF said: Desert areas have always been avoided by most serious scenery developers (exceptions being photoreal and some attempts at texture/landclass combinations like GEX). It is darn near impossible to get a "realistic" ground presentation with texture/landclass for a wide geographic area that is mostly sand/parched earth and scrub brush area. Photoreal is usually the best representation, but photoreal will normally always end up being "one color palette fits all", which does not represent what someone will see in a desert environment...the desert colors out here in the U.S. southwest change colors numerous times during the day depending on lighting conditions (which photoreal scenery can't do). Plus, "low and slow" over a desert for sight-seeing isn't going to be very inspiring for very long. There just aren't many POI's to "explore" or "discover". For a developer to do something like northern Africa or even most of the state of Nevada as a dedicated scenery project isn't going to be very appealing to a majority of the simming community. Seriously...how many of us fly over the extended outback areas of ORBX Australia on a regular basis? Low and slow? Looking at the "pretty scenery" there? I live in Nevada. I love what ORBX has done for the southern Las Vegas area of Nevada they included in the SOCAL Region product. But there is "stuff" down here that makes it worth having in my sim. Not so much when I fly north of Las Vegas all the way to Oregon/Idaho though (exception being the Lake Tahoe area, which ORBX also included in their region products). For most of Nevada, I have Nevada photoreal scenery when I want to fly there. At best, ORBX might do the rest of the southwest U.S. as a TrueEarth photoreal project, but even then there wouldn't be much of anything else in the geography to see (like autogen, airports, POI's, etc). Southern Rockies? Yes, I could see that. But the question with current scenery technology is should it be texture/landclass based, or TrueEarth now? I'm guessing ORBX is leaning towards more TrueEarth nowadays. Heck, they are going to REDO the entire Pacific Northwest in TrueEarth. That should be an indication of what the future of texture/landclass products will be. Interesting, wonder how Orbx will represent the Sahara. I liked a lot flying in Utah... And I like to fly in Alice Springs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 5:29 AM, Vora said: Years ago, when it was possible, people had put their whole OrbX shopping lists into their signatures, and on these you could easily see that NRM and CRM were by far the least popular regions of the OrbX catalogue. I guess that was the reason why SRM had fallen off the to-do-list back then. Also, as Falcon wrote, deserts aren't really suitable for LC. So we'll never have Middle East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripcord Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Actually that is a good point. If ORBX can figure out the coloration in WA and the Aussie outback, then they should be able to figure out Utah, Arizona, Colorado, NM and so forth. It seems like this group is able to push through where so many others fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosqr Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 6:09 AM, Gabe777 said: One vote for extending Alaska upwards...... we want more ! And, there are many small airfields that could be developed as well. Barrow!! Fairbanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquireAus Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 On 10/31/2018 at 8:12 AM, Ken Q said: Further thoughts on the Southwest: I think FalconAF is right on his observation on desert scenery, and the NA landclass portrays this scenery very well. But how about some payware airports with accompanying cityscapes. Santa Fe, Albuquerque and Tuscon (with the Puma Air Museum and the famous "boneyard" included) come to mind. Ken I was thinking of a Cityscape Phoenix, and since we already have a great airport in the form of Flightbeam KPHX, I wonder if that would be compatible? Would make the approach less of an eyesore considering since AZ is outside ORBX OpenLC range and therefore uses stock autogen which is... troubled to say the least. Also, for Californis what about a Bay Area or LA Metro cityscape? Would help liven up the approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe777 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 14 hours ago, carlosqr said: Barrow!! Fairbanks Imagine full-on OrbX renditions of Nome, Barrow, Bethel, St. Marys, Deadhorse, Little Diomede.... and .... best of all - Unalakleet ! (There are a few of these now, but there is plenty of room for expansion - 3D grass, villages etc., plus, Ariel and her mum messing around on the ramp at Una, and of course Jim's Cessna 180 parked up !). I'll be first in line with my Aussie dollars ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Hobson Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 7 hours ago, SquireAus said: <snip> ... since AZ is outside ORBX OpenLC range and therefore uses stock autogen which is... troubled to say the least. I don't quite understand this. Arizona is clearly covered by Open LC NA, so is there truly a problem with "stock autogen"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb613 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Gabe777 said: Imagine full-on OrbX renditions of Nome, Barrow, Bethel, St. Marys, Deadhorse, Little Diomede.... and .... best of all - Unalakleet ! (There are a few of these now, but there is plenty of room for expansion - 3D grass, villages etc., plus, Ariel and her mum messing around on the ramp at Una, and of course Jim's Cessna 180 parked up !). I'll be first in line with my Aussie dollars ! Yeah - I'd be happy to see the autogen updated in the area to see all those bright colors they commonly use on the Inuit villages... I don't think SAK reflects that but I haven't flown up there in a bit... My vote: Regards, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquireAus Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 19 hours ago, Stewart Hobson said: I don't quite understand this. Arizona is clearly covered by Open LC NA, so is there truly a problem with "stock autogen"? I meant specific region wise, I think I muddled my words badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe777 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 23 hours ago, scottb613 said: Yeah - I'd be happy to see the autogen updated in the area to see all those bright colors they commonly use on the Inuit villages... I don't think SAK reflects that but I haven't flown up there in a bit... Funny you say that, as I disable Buildings Autogen in Alaska..... default is just too painful! But I did find a Unalakleet village scenery from like 10 years ago..... goes just fine, but to get the whole OrbX treatment for all those famous hubs in Alaska would be awesome. Problem of course, which I fully appreciate, is its sheer size.... Alaska is REALLY big, BUT, much is covered already with OpenLC and Vectors..... just a case of someone coming along who wants to do a bunch of isolated areas. Maybe one day... !?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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