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johnny

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my current spec is a  Q6600 2.4 8500GT

I'm not big into hardware and changing my spec but I saw today the following:

Twintech Geforce GTX 250 PCI 1Gb express 2.0 HDMI (149 euros)

Is this going to give me a remarkable performance improvement for FSX (and fs9). Will I be on another planet , or is it not worth it and gives only a smal gain.

also

Twintech Geforce GTX 260 PCI 512Mb express 2.0 (195 euros)

PNY GTS250 512Mb (149 euros)

Are there any pitfalls with changing a video card. and reinstallation to do or is it a simple thing with generally no side effects?

thanks for your help guys

John

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Hi Spirit Flyer

GTX 285 is 329euros, GTX 275 is 269euros, GTX 269 is 195euros

I'm on vista 32bit , this kind of thing was always my weak spot, but I guess now is the time to learn, I have listed here a load of info, half of it is probably useless, the other half hopefully answers to your question.

what do you reckon, are any of those compatible with my motherboard and likely to give me a new experience with FSX?

John

Product number

GX643AA

Introduction date

26-Sep-2007

Country/region sold in:

    *

      France

Hardware

Base processor

Core 2 Quad Q6600 (K) 2.4 GHz

    *

      1066 MHz front side bus

    *

      Socket 775

Chipset

Intel G33 Express

Motherboard

    *

      Manufacturer: Asus

    *

      Motherboard Name: IPIBL-LA

    *

      HP/Compaq motherboard name: Berkeley-GL8E

Memory

Component Attributes

Memory Installed 3 GB

Maximum allowed 8 GB (4 x 2 GB) (64-bit OS)

4 GB* (4 x 1 GB) (32-bit OS)

*Actual available memory may be less

Speed supported PC2-5300 MB/sec

Type 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM

Hard drive

    *

      500 GB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)

    *

      7200 rpm

16X DVD(+/-)R/RW 12X RAM (+/-)R DL LightScribe SATA drive

    * Must use Double-Layer media discs in order to take advantage of the DL technology

    * Must use LightScribe-enabled media discs and supporting software in order to take advantage of the LightScribe technology

Function Maximum speed

DVD-RAM Up to 12X

DVD-R DL Write Once Up to 8X

DVD+R DL Write Once Up to 8X

DVD+R Write Once Up to 16X

DVD+RW Rewritable Up to 8X

DVD-R Write Once Up to 16X

DVD-RW Rewritable Up to 6X

DVD ROM Read Up to 16X

CD-R Write Once Up to 40X

CD-RW Rewritable Up to 32X

CD-ROM Read Up to 40X

Video Graphics

GeForce 8500GT

    * 512 MB GDDR2 memory

    * I/O Ports: HDMI, dual-link DVI , S-video

Sound/Audio

Integrated High Definition audio

    * Realtek ALC 888S chipset

    * Supports up to 7.1 audio channels

Network (LAN)

Integrated 10/100/1000 Base-T networking interface

Memory card reader

    * Supports the following cards:

          o Compact Flash I

          o Compact Flash II

          o IBM Microdrive

          o Secure Digital (SD)

          o mini-SD

          o MultiMediaCard (MMC)

          o Reduced size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC)

          o MultiMediaCard Plus (MMC plus)

          o MultiMediaCard Mobile (MMC mobile)

          o Memory Stick

          o Memory Stick Pro

          o Memory Stick Duo

          o Memory Stick Pro Duo

          o SmartMedia

          o xD Picture Card (xD = extreme digital)

External I/O ports

I/O ports on the front panel

Port type Quantity

15-in-1 (4 slot) One

USB Two

1394 One

Headphone One

Microphone One

Line-in One

I/O ports on the back panel

Port type Quantity

PS2 (keyboard, mouse) Two (one each)

VGA One (disabled due to the installation of a graphics card)

USB Four

1394 One

LAN One

SPDIF out (coaxial) One

SPDIF in One

Audio (side speaker out, rear speaker out, center speaker out, line-in, line-out, microphone) One Each

Expansion slots

Slot type Quantity

PCI One (One available)

PCI Express x16 One (None available)

PCI Express x1 Two (Two available)

Drive bays

Bay type Quantity

5.25" Two (One available)

3.5" Two (One available)

Pocket Media Drive One (One available)

Technologies

    * Viiv

Keyboard and mouse

    *

      HP multimedia keyboard

    *

      HP PS/2 optical mouse

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Software

NOTE: HP provides basic support for software that comes with the computer. For in-depth feature assistance, refer to the help section in the software or on the software vendor's Web site.

Software titles that shipped with PCSoftware Category Software Title

Operating System

    * Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Media Center

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Hi johnny,

After reading your post's, is this a pre-built system from Dell/Acer/HP? If so you would probably need to upgrade your PSU unless you have already to a decent unit which would not most be likely the case as the big manufacturers (previously mentioned) only really provide PS's that are generic's (AKA no brand) and can only run the selected hardware already installed. Any upgrades and you will have a problem. GPU-Wise, any upgrade from a 8500GT to a more recent card will see quite the big improvement. From what  have read, FSX is more dependant on the CPU but it still needs a decent GPU nonetheless. With this in mind, how much are you prepared to spend on a GPU and possible PSU upgrade?

Installing a new GPU is bery straight forward, remove the previous drivers for the 8500GT, turn off computer, take out the 8500GT, then install your new graphics card. Insert any needed PCI-Express Power connections (6/8pin), boot up and install the drivers either off the disc included or from online. (Online seem to be always more recent) All the best.

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good video, thankyou. but I have asked my wife to shoot me if ever I start along that path.

I would be willing to spend up to 200 or so if I thought it was risk free - but hearing nerd-tech say now that an upgrade to the PSU may also be necessary. Don't know now, have to start reading up big time, its not then just a question of seeing my pc has pci express and going and buying a good card for 200 euros.

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Hmmmmm what a strange video - I do not like the way the person handles the cards - obviously has not heard of/is not aware of antistatic precautions. I find it odd that the performance of the card is said to be directly related to the weight of the card - hey, just add a few sinkers and hey presto you have boosted the performance; and another heatsink and fan hey presto more performance increase? I think the testing method has a few flaws in it!

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