KeithGiannoni Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 OK good news, J! Two RW08 approaches. First the RNAV08 with a missed approach climb to RTT (non standard!!), then the LOC/DME 08/26 with the Visual after to touch down. Both CTD free! Previously the CTD would occur soon after passing over the airfield. These were flown from two saved positions in FSX. So I will try a full flight to LOWI with the approaches again tomorrow. Be good to see how the others get on. PMDG 738 used. Well done so far!! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithGiannoni Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Further to my last entry. EDDS to LOWI with the LOC/DME with visual for RW26 worked perfectly. Previously I had CTD on all attempts doing this so all good for me. Many thanks Jarrad. Hopefully all will be good for the others. Best, Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny1968 Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 For me no CTD with these files either. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 IN my case (approach from West, special circle to land runway 26 - still crash when circling to runway 26 from 313 NDB after I applied last "fix" for autogen. Terrain.DLL error, same as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I still get a CTD with the last fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithGiannoni Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Flew in today in AS A319. This time I made the turn over OEJ and after about 1 nm I had a CTD. When I restarted and turned at 4.4 OEJ as per the procedure, no CTD. Incidentally, one of the FSUIPC save points was as I made the first turn. It was impossible to return to this saved point as the CTD kicked in immediately. Taking it back a few minutes in time allowed the second approach I mentioned above. Clearly some issues possibly beyond the 4.4 point? Remember before the latest fix I could not pass beyond the airfield. This fix allows me to fly further before a CTD. The Terrain.dll the culprit as before. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Exact same time I'm getting CTD Keith. 4.4 OEJ, RT and crash, although I also loaded saved situation. Either time of day related or something else, really not sure. Such a shame though as I'd really like to fly in this beautiful airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 You all with these CTDs could, without compromise, make a backup of those folders and/or files, ...and delete them, so you can try to see what will happen. ================ Folder, this: C:\Users\*YourUser*\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX\Shaders ================ Files here → C:\Users\*YourUser*\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files: Previous Flight.FLT Previous Flight.ipcbin Previous Flight.WX ================ And if these exist: Previous Flight.FSSAVE MtEST.FSSAVE ================ No damage can happen. However, remember that you can go back to the previous state using backups, if necessary. Cheers, Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 No change. Using P3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 No change either. Besides terrain.dll error has nothing to do with those files I believe as it comes from scenery/autogen. Temp files issues would cause errors in more places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 On 4/12/2017 at 0:47 AM, KeithGiannoni said: Further to my last entry. EDDS to LOWI with the LOC/DME with visual for RW26 worked perfectly. Previously I had CTD on all attempts doing this so all good for me. Many thanks Jarrad. Hopefully all will be good for the others. Best, Keith On 4/12/2017 at 2:09 AM, Danny1968 said: For me no CTD with these files either. Thanks! Great news guys, glad this sorted it for you Next test for those still getting CTDs, same drill as last time: 1. Go back to your ORBX\FTX_EU\FTX_AA_LOWI\texture folder 2. Delete all files with the filetype .agn - there will be 1,451 in total after our last test. < don't skip this step, it is important 3. Drop the 1,371 agn files from the attached zip file into your ORBX\FTX_EU\FTX_AA_LOWI\texture folder. 4. Run the test again and let me know how it goes. nb. This test is running under the presumption that you are having a CTD in the general vicinity of Danny's original report, ie near N47 20.32 E011 48.9. If your crash is in a totally different spot, please make note of the rough lat/long you are experiencing this. Cheers, Jarrad Agn_Test_03_LOWI.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Still getting a CTD. I have done my testing around N47 17.52 E11 33.22, so a little further in but I also tried the spesific coordinates you mentioned and I had a CTD there. I think it's somewhere around the AB NDB I get a CTD if a fly or slew from the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithGiannoni Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Sadly latest fix does not work for me either. See attached picture. Instead of the approach I simply set the PMDG 738 to climb. Passed AB and the CTD occurs 4 DME from OEJ. Pretty much as Scandinavian above. Best, Keith Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 mine happens where the red circle is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeypee Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 My CTD always happens, when i want to enter the area from east (pmdg 737), around "ff26" Its reproducable and only happens, if i come from "outside". This flight for expample from LYBE into LOWI LOC DME 26 East. NANIT 1A STAR, RTT Transistion. Also an autosave will CTD me at exact same position. If i start at LOWI and fly around this place, nothing happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Yup it seems issue us present when flying from "outside" as gentlman above stated. I couldn't reproduce it when I spawned @ LOWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris7875 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 same with me, crashpoint at NDB 313 approx. Also terrain.dll with PMDG NGX, ORBX Global, Vector, LC Europe, Trees and LOWI installed + Freemesh. Tried approach from West, crash at NDB just before right-turn. Tried also departure 08 ADILO1J from LOWI, this time short after passing NDB313 but before right turn to follow SID got CTD from terrain.dll. in both cases, about 5-7 seconds before crash, the FPS went down from 18-22 to 7-10. VAS usage didn´t change, i had in both cases about 600-700 MB free. short before CTD was in both case´s a 2 second freeze, then 2 seconds normal and then crash. My system handles Aerosoft EDDF without problems so it should be normaly no problem to handle LOWI. It feels like terrain.dll canot handle the data flow, perhaps there comes more data in than it could process. I don´t know how terrain.dll works but i know that my system has a more than good data-flow from SSD - RAM - CPU but the CPU is not the best (I5 3570k) (thats all just a thought, don´t take it too serious) In the past, terrain.dll errors where always OOM´s because terrain.dll just overflowed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjacobsen Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Does this issue exist in both FSX, FSX-SE and P3D V3.4 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 P3d 3.4 here and it exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris7875 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 in my case FSX Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Hello everyone here in this thread, Some info. Well, just to register, as it may be useful, on the occasion of this last update of Windows 10, some unexpected CTDs happened in my P3D. I've done everything I know to handle these issues. Almost without success. Thus I remembered the Windows 10 update, and did a check inside the registry of my PC. There it was: there were dozens of "pointers" to files that no longer existed. I cleaned the PC Registry and solved the case of unusual CTDs. To clean the registry of my PC I used CCleaner, which is my favorite program. But there are others in the market, tho I've never used any other than CCleaner. a. Cheers, Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I'm using cc cleaner weekly. I also did not install latest large update as I read it messes up with p3d. Error still there. Again terrain.dll indicates that there is an issue with scenery complexity/autogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeypee Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Iam also using ccleaner. Still getting those terrain.dll ctd. As soon i deactivate FTX_AA_LOWI i can fly without error. So its definately a problem with loading in ftx lowi. Come on guys, its a beautiful scenery, but i cant use it at the moment. Iam using : P3D3.4, ftx global, eu_lc, vector (only primary and secondary roads), freemeshx, as16+asca, chaseplane, pmdg ngx i also tried different scenery complexity/autogen and mesh settings. Nothing helped. As soon LOWI loads, P3D crashs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa68 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I need to jump in here, Jarrad. (I opened a threat in the P3D 3.x section before finding this one, sorry for that) I figured out that after switching MESH RES to 2m instead of 5m, I now can enter/leave the LOWI area to/from the east with the default F-22 without CTD. Unfortunately, the PMDG 737 caused a CTD again right after the 180 turn at RTT. I will test the patch files now and report again. #edit: after exchange of the *.agn files I still have CTD when leaving to the east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeypee Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I forgot to mention, i also tried the last workaround from Jarrad : post . it sadly doesnt work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morimasa66 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Please try without "011223300231101an.agn" in Texture folder. I am using P3D v3.4, I have no CTD for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Do you mean before fixes (original folder and remove this file) or first apply fixes from Jarred and then remove file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I have the latest test files installed, and removing the file morimasa66 mentioned seems to remove the CTD. I am also using P3D v3.4, latest build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morimasa66 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I am using only original files,not using fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Hi guys, For those still finding the CTD's, could you please try Morimasa66's findings? Please do the following: 1. If you have been following my previous suggestions, please restore your original set of autogen files (these should be in the temporary folder you created in your FTX_AA_LOWI/texture folder). The aim is to have your original set of autogen files in place. 2. In your FTX_AA_LOWI/texture folder, search for 011223300231101an.agn, rename this file to 011223300231101an.agn.OFF Run your test flight again, and let us know your findings. Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa68 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 After a fresh installation to clean up my texture folder, I did what you suggest and can confirm: No CTD when departing or approaching LOWI area from/to the east! Regards and thanks for this peace of art, Jarrad! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa68 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Piece, PIECE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 please ignore the post, I need to redo the tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephic Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I confirm disabling the file works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 It works fine here with the original agn files also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braun Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Fixed for me to. So, how did you know that was the offending file? Amazing detective work. -Braun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrad Marshall Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Thanks guys, this looks like the culprit file then. An update to this and the missing road traffic file will go out soon via FTX-Central. Many thanks and kudos to @morimasa66 for singling down the specific file. Cheers, Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Clarke Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Good news indeed and I think it shows well, the strength of the Orbx community in assisting not only other users in trying to resolve any problems they have, but also in this instance helping one of Orbx' finest developers. Kudos to you both, and long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morimasa66 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I am very happy. To tell the truth, I checked all the agn files after I divided them into groups of 50. After that, I divided the group with the error in half and checked them. And then, I divided the 25 files with some errors into groups of 12 or 13 and checked them. and I repeated this procedure again until I found the file with the error. So ,I was very tired・・・・・ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If nothing else, a large virtual beer to you morimasa66! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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