John Venema Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Hello everyone, Starting with openLC USA/Mexico we're adding advanced new night lighting tech to major cities. We may not cover all major cities with this tech but it will be progressively rolled out and also added to service packs to the EU and Alaska/Canada openLC areas. These lights are viewable from a much longer distance than the standard FTX Global lighting and will certainly enhance dawn/dusk/night approaches into the major hub airports. This series of shots are from Nashville and Kansas City. Many more screenshots are on their way, these are just some tasters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsvette12 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Impressive John reminds me of another product - looks awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Floodlight preview shots - thanks! And the last two look particularly realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettT Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Great shots. Will these be added to the full Ftx regions or will they automatically show through in these regions if you own the open lc in addition to the regions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianV Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wow, wow, wow.... woooooowwwww! This looks beyond fabulous, outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronKen Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Thanks again for the preview shots JV.... these are really stunning. Can't wait to add this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan King Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Now THIS is exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, BrettT said: Great shots. Will these be added to the full Ftx regions or will they automatically show through in these regions if you own the open lc in addition to the regions They won't show up through the regions because the regions take priority over openLC but we'll certainly look into adding the tech at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettT Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Thanks John! That would certainly be a welcome addition and in my opinion something worth paying a little extra for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 Oh you'll be paying extra, openLC's development costs have soared so there's a price increase in June. We will offer a discount incentive for all customers who purchased openLC NA Alaska/Canada but the price is definitely heading north. More details on new Orbx pricing across the board will be announced in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Hamilton Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Didn't we just have a price increase? Airports went from $32.95 to $34.95 a couple months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseCFII Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 This is a much welcomed technology. I hope that it does not affect performance. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Bruce Hamilton said: Didn't we just have a price increase? Airports went from $32.95 to $34.95 a couple months back. Bruce that was just a correction for inconsistencies across the catalog. Our products have not been CPI adjusted for ten years so what's happening in June is long overdue. Our prices have essentially been static for nearly a decade - in fact in many cases they are much, much cheaper than our launch prices back in 2008 ($200 for FTX Australia and $70 for YMML). Don't worry, these won't be drastic increases and the weak AUD hardly impacts our biggest markets of the US and EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDreier Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 It'll be an exciting day when we get the notification that LC for USA/MEXICO has been released. That's the one missing link in my P3D v3.2 experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillaBee Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 those look very similar to Chris Bell's lighting system (NEX) and nearly the same quality... is he on board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabnz Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wow - Lovely shots! And with your products being enhanced on almost a daily bases, it's fully understandable that the price must go up. Fantastic work guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessHershel Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 This is so good looking. Any chance Philadelphia and Harrisburg, PA will be on the included-cities list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavart Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Bruce Hamilton said: Didn't we just have a price increase? Airports went from $32.95 to $34.95 a couple months back. Did you notice the screen shots? They look awesome btw. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griphos Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I have to say that's a very realistic effect. I may have to break down and get Global and this new LC finally. I've always just flown the regions (I have all of them), but I might be nice to venture a bit farther in the world after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Alexander Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 What will the results look like at flight level? Say, somewhere around 350? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike707 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 15 hours ago, John Venema said: We may not cover all major cities with this tech but it will be progressively rolled out and also added to service packs to the EU and Alaska/Canada openLC areas. This is excellent news! The shots look great and I am thrilled that Orbx will add more cities as time goes on. I was not sure about purchasing this product, but seeing the screenshots and knowing that Orbx will progressively roll out more cities just sold the product for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrjs Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Thanks for the pictures. Can you say something about performance (both fps and VAS)? This is always my first concern with new technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 Performance is not impacted by much because it's limited to only the main arterial roads and motorways per city. No, Chris from NE is not involved. It takes about 30 minutes per city for us to implement this tech so whilst that sounds speedy, there are a lot of large cities in the US etc so we'll do the majors first and then SP the openLC regions as a side project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw250 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 It's a great improvement !! Looking forward to it's, arrival...... Thanks orbx .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 hour ago, John Venema said: It takes about 30 minutes per city for us to implement this tech so whilst that sounds speedy, there are a lot of large cities in the US etc so we'll do the majors first and then SP the openLC regions as a side project. Soundd good, thanks for the many info comments. Is there perhaps an overview which areas are covered so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 No not yet, we're still adding this to the major cities and we'll have a definitive list prior to release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda425 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Great, thank you John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Harmes Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 17 hours ago, BrettT said: Thanks John! That would certainly be a welcome addition and in my opinion something worth paying a little extra for Seriously? It's ORBX. Do you think they need any encouragement or advice on financial matters? Sorry to point this post out, but I see similar posts often and I just don't think there's any need to be offering payware developers or publishers more than the financial compensation they are asking for. 16 hours ago, Bruce Hamilton said: Didn't we just have a price increase? Airports went from $32.95 to $34.95 a couple months back. Prices for regions were also increased by $10 to $15; they are all now $49.95 where some of them were around $35-$40 just prior to Christmas last year. I considered these increases a fair trade off for the development of P3D installers of the same products. As for the airports, there are some I just would not pay $34.95 for. The night lighting looks great. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Venema Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 Region prices were *not* increased by $10-15 across the board, it was only $5 except for NIR and IRL which we had accidentally left at a discounted rate for over 14 months. Regardless, we're now off topic thanks to Bruce. Let me settle the price discussion by saying prices will increase in June and if you don't believe something is fair value then don't buy it, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Hamilton Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm not the one who said prices were heading north, all I did was ask a question. I take no responsibility for this going off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm just getting more selective. In the old days I bought everything out the gate but lately some of the offerings are priced to high for my liking as there isn't as much bang for the buck in some titles. I hope they price smaller airports less than lets say KTEX or KSTS as those airports have allot to offer where something like L70 is much smaller and easier to produce. This is just my opinion and I'm not asking for anything just expressing my feelings here. hopefully I didn't go to far off topic. Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The topic is "openLC NA - new improved city lighting tech"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Love the new lighting this will be a must buy for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B77X Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 XPlane had the best night environment mostly due to the different night lights, but this will turn the crown back to FSX/P3D for best night environment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.a Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Not yet, this is limited to some major cities in the US, after that extending to Europe. Not important cities will remain the same. X-plane has its lighting effect all around the globe. I guess they will keep the crown until we have a new simulator, Dovetail Games´ maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabnz Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 By turning these lights on, will that increase my power bill?? Hahaha I'm hoping night lights are going to look good in the Oculus Rift too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan King Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 16 hours ago, John Venema said: It takes about 30 minutes per city for us to implement this tech so whilst that sounds speedy, there are a lot of large cities in the US etc so we'll do the majors first and then SP the openLC regions as a side project. Hey John, Quick question. Will the Western US still be covered? I tend to fly tubeliners most of the time and usually use Global and Vector in lieu of my full fat regions when I do these flights. With the NA LC I was wondering if this solution would still give me this new night lighting in the regions that are also covered by full fat areas or would I have to wait for the patch to the regions and then run them in hybrid? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.a Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Jordan King said: Hey John, Quick question. Will the Western US still be covered? I tend to fly tubeliners most of the time and usually use Global and Vector in lieu of my full fat regions when I do these flights. With the NA LC I was wondering if this solution would still give me this new night lighting in the regions that are also covered by full fat areas or would I have to wait for the patch to the regions and then run them in hybrid? Thanks! I don´t know the answer, but as far as I know, Hybrid mode is about to disappear, so it won´t be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotjackson Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 As someone who just moved to P3D less than a week ago, I was about to post a question about whether the outstanding ORBX team was thinking about tackling night lighting at some point. Question answered! And great news. The amount of product development you guys have going on is astonishing. Thank you for all your hard work in making things continually better for the simming community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilstorm Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Great preview. Have a question, as you state the lights show further away but what about when the plane is at altitude, has there been a change there as well? Currently in P3Dv3 they kinda fade away as the plane goes up and it looks great, just didnt read any info and all the screenshots are down low so wasnt sure if in addition to distance, there have been changes made at altitude as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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