John Heaton

Sheesh!! ---- reminds me of the days long ago when I found a couple of billiard balls in there

Reminds me of an old scottish saying - that replaces "Go Away" or similiar dismissals "Uppyah kilt - Jock

Yepp! - blame Ken Q for the digital error - remember he is one of us - possibly suffering from time to time with - Al - Al - Al - whatsisname

Sooh many Birthday wishes - and to these - I add mine👍 One day - looking back - you will remember your 80th birthday as something special and welcome to an elite group

makes a change - someone wishing you a happy birthday - welcome to the elders

Dohh ?? - High School ?? - so long ago I can't remember the school - never mind any mates need photos to remind me that I actually went to scool

Happy Birthday - you youngster you - and yes - we misstya - I thought that maybe you had been overcome in all The IPSWICH HEAT I hope you used your non forum time to something artistic

Blimey - Time flies - seems like yesterday we were wishing you a Happy Birthday - sooh ! "Many Happy returns - Iain - may all your exposures be colourful! 👍

Great minds think alike ! - but I got all the goodies last year

First up - I don't want to start a flaming war between sims - but Ken and Gumby have nudged me into a short story in reverse. About 5 weeks ago - I analyzed my MSFS use - My MS hangar has more aircraft than a museum - a stuffed up Community - a TB disc just as stuffed -time for a change ?? - should I wait for 2024 before I did any changes - including a new 2TB drive ?? - and I did the following. Despite all the birds in MS - I really missed some of the aircraft I flew in real life - because they weren't in MS - and I flew in P3D and X plane viz - the Saratoga - the Navajo PA 31 - The Lancaster and Halifax and B24 bombers my dad flew in WW11 - The single Comanche and other A2A aircraft in P3D - PA 28 and Cessna 150 and 172 etc. The original pipers - PA 140 I learned how to fly in - and the PA 32 that I owned -(avatar) - in X plane - so - on another TB disc - I loaded the full P3D 5 - and a few aircraft - along with 310 GB of Orbx - reloaded XP 11 and a few aircraft. Note - I rarely fly anything more than VFR/IFR below 10K I had forgotten the problems I had with P3D 5 - dumped it - and reinstalled all again with P3D4 - but honestly - I had to give it up - so difficult to get my Honeycomb set up to work consistently - and the scenery - despite Orbx true Earth - OH HUM!! XP was better - and the controls were default - but the scenery - once again - " how did we put up with these - before MSFS" What should I do - Reload DSC and IL 2 - all missions - and fly - ignoring the scenery - but have some fun with warbird action and fast flying ?? Or - bite the bullet - Start again - with my new 2TB SSD - windows 11 - and a reinstall of the current 2020 - un stuffed - with a community file that I only need for concentration of geographical areas and certain aircraft that I need to learn better Do more Tube altitude long distance flights - and night flights - and get up - out of bed - earlier - to spend more time flying - car racing Decision - decisions!!

My favourite UTube reviewer has done very good job of reviewing our favourite Queensland airport

NO - NO - definitely not Remember as kids ?- when both little lads and little girls played one of our early sports in the UK - called "Rounders" before the lads grew up to play "cricket" The Americans - and Canadians adopted the game and called it 'Baseball" that might just help you understand it

You could say the same for the American NFL - big burly guys - who wear large shoulder pads and helmets - whilst our lads - disdain to use such weighty apparatus - and play a faster open game gaining larger distances per play

We Australians who are Rugby fans - declare AFL to a kind of Aerial Ballet dancing using a small Rugby ball

Unfortunately, Rodger - apart from my fanatical love of Ossie Ruby League and test cricket with the odd 50 over game I might watch the Rugby League from the UK Too you guys in the USA /Canada - you could tune in to a live RL game which is to be played in Las Vagas in March which features my Beloved Brisbane Broncos and a team from Sydney

Thanks John - but I can't afford the "Pro" version on my pension and my version does not have the facility you describe. First up - your first one showing the 1985 one is causing me confusion - since it is dated 15-1 - 2016 as Imagery date which sort of confirms my estimated date I referred to as the one possibly used by John Dow in his letter earlier? - (although it is dated on mine as a 2024 image) - albeit - a later date than the one currently used on MSFS - which should be the latest Bing - which is shown as 2020 on my PC. No matter which one we look at - the Google of 2016 - or the latest Bing - the tarmac is much lighter and less like my "Cotton Mill Planking" definition.

I have them as well in conjunction with the Alph/Bravo Honeycomb set for GA - and use them with my Logitech full set of 1600 controllers when using DCS - but they are now playing up - after much use over the last 3 years - like me I suppose

The problems seem to be mostly around the "Charlie " pedals I really do enjoy my Honeycomb set up - just wish it was as easy to set up in P3D as it is in XP and MSFS

John I wouldn't be too reliant on the Google depiction since it is almost as old as the Bing used in MSFS - in fact - probably at least 8 years old - compared with the 10 years of Bing. A number of current areas are lacking - in fact - the Google current Sat - does not have the new terminal extensions built some time ago with quite a bit of the whole tarmac resurfaced. The current Bing sat. is up to date and yes the tarmac looks more like Matteo's pic. However - it is purely a matter of taste - and in reality - no effect at all on whether or not - I use it - which I will - because I have bought it - and it helps Matteo want to do more - (Gold Coast City Scape Please!) The Brisbane pack you mention is very good and so up to date - it even has Buildings not yet finished A condition that is most definitely different to the Gold Coast used in MSFS - which is based upon a Bing Sat - 10 years old - and most blokes on this forum are well aware of my criticisms of that debacle.  Most definitely!! - the Gold Coast - a major Tourist area of Australia - and is the prime tourist destination for locals and overseas visitors alike and should be represented as accurate as possible. - For example - most of the current Australian scene is so out of date - and if it wasn't for Orbx's efforts with their City Schemes and airports - and 3rd party developers - it would be an insult to us - to depict our country as it is currently in MSFS - despite a so-called upgrade - 12 months ago- which seemed to purely based on all the work done by Orbx. When P3D was all the go - Orbx produced a GC city /airport pack that was very good - and would have been true to life 12 years ago - and its features are very close to the current MS effort.. We need another ---from someone!

I need to think about this - I find the Orbx one (Sorry Mateo) tarmac reminds me of the worn planked flooring in an old cotton mill back home in Lancashire - and the 3-10 parking areas are missing However - the backside buildings are a bit more photogrammetry in general than the opposition's but I much prefer the opposition's rendering of the tarmac - especially close up.

Bought it - installed it - still thinking about it

As long as it has runways - good taxiways - its' OK by Me However - the artist in me - appreciates the effort and talent of the computer artists that produce these airports of recent times - particularly the ones I use(d) in real life eg Orbx Melbourne. There is one aspect that does annoy me - is the inability to process the tarmac colours and sometimes the grassy areas which dull representations of the sat pics

Is this like the one I have got ---- on X box

I cant really answer that - but I did take a ride in one last year from the company hanger directly in line with the helly spot

There's always been one at GC - and is just partially visible on pic 9 - left around 10 .00 clock - ie North of the oil tanks