Mawson

I still use MSFS but in terms of helicopter physics and gliders its a long way behind. You can enjoy both for different reasons and yes I still consider MSFS more of a game and I enjoy using it all the same but it relies on eye candy exactly how you described it, but if your stripped it to the bare physics it would not hold a candle to Fs4. if you think MSFS is the only sim worth having then you are a gamer not a simmer and your post here can not be taken seriously so, touché!

Thankyou this is correct.

I doubt it....

Its user base is small and the sim is boutique and it has a very good physics model for helicopters. Like X Pane 11 it is actually certified to use in commercial sims and it is EASA approved so it can be logged as flight hours ( subject to approved hardware of course). The current upgrade is probably more of an incremental step but its good they are keeping the development going but its more of a sim as opposed to a game like MSFS, there is a big difference. I am not too concerned about having the whole world in a sim, I will just make my own local scenery when the sdk is out like I did for Fs2. I was happy with the few Orbx provided too and I built some around them. The best part is the frame rate and VR as it simply blows everything else out of the water, its amazing though it will be interesting what X Plane 12 is like . Don't expect to be a game like MSFS but it has it's niche in the world and the developers have kept it up to date and in that respect its graphics API is still ahead of MSFS. I might add that I think there will be tears and pain when Asobo push DX 12 through as I think that will break just about every addon to some extent!

I am a big fan of Aerofly and I was wondering if there were any plans to support the current FS2 scenery in Fs4?

How is Orbx going with X plane 12 beta testing? I was told by a friend at the recent expo he was told that Orbx have the beta for testing. Is there any upgrade policy for X plane 11 scenaries, will it be free or will there be an upgrade price?

Yes I stopped using P3d V5 now and have swapped to MSFS and X plane 11.50. I have a few freeware airports for MSFS and they are pretty good but i would like to see Orbx do jandakot and Broome again in MSFS.

Do you mean you are running this in MSFS 2020 or P3d V5?

I wonder if WA will ever get any attention again in the same way as FSX and P3d and X plane ( somewhat) in this new sim since the brilliant developer Mr Marshall has seemingly left the Orbx building? The Shunts folk have done some awesome work over East and love to see some love for WA again!

He has disappeared altogether , maybe he is gone back to being an airline pilot?

My guess is that as Orbx is moving to an online store selling other third party products and they just don't want to get involved in monitoring other third party product discussions as this may result in them getting sued or breaching contract terms ect, so the only way they can control it is take it off public offline discussions.

I am hoping now ASOBO have done such a great job of Australia ( IMHO it's the best update so far in terms of quality) I am hoping Orbx will go and do some special treatment like they used to with P#D and FSX. I will be disappointed if a 2022 roadmap does not include that. I wonder whether the fact they are now turning into more of a Webstore for other scenery developers that they may not be doing much of their own scenery now?

I am so happy that Australia is finally going to get a proper treatment of it's huge and varied landmass!

Same problem different temperature! A friend of mine flew a helo in Antarctica before GPS and given the high latitude the compass was virtually unusable , is that a problem in the high Canadian lts?

I have travelled the world extensively in real life and I have met very few people in the Northern hemisphere that truly understand the nature of the Australian Continent unless they have spent time travelling on it or over it or through it. There is simply nothing to compare in the Northern hemisphere and one of the things have I learnt when flying with Northern Hemisphere trained pilots is that they find our VFR maps very hard to read from the map to the ground as the topography is so different and what we see as a feature in Australia would not even be marked on a VFR map in the Northern hemisphere. So a more detailed mesh that allows a more nuanced topography would be much appreciated by those of us that fly VFR in our sims in Australia. I guess that is why Orbx started from in providing more detail in our delicate Australian topography before they became international in their approach.

Very low ridges, though I think falling off them would cause a lot more than a skinned knee!

Wow you have no idea of the topography and how big Australia is given you live in a postage stamp country 1/100 th of the size of Australia . Your lack of geography is duly noted.

Thanks for keeping up your X plane Support!

How about an Australia mesh?

Being a helicopter pilot IRL and the simworld I know the pain welll as its going to be a year until MSFS supports rotary wing but I am making do with the hacked helicopters. Maybe if X plane 12 comes back hard MSFS may lose me altogther...

The Shunt Scenery was a great tip, just what I was looking for. It seems with MSFS there is an obsession in Northern Europe so it's great local developers are spending a bit of time in Australia and NZ. It fits right into Orbx's Brisbane and Brisbane Airport.

Great, I have flown out of YBSU, awesome tip!~ I bought both airports!

There is a freeware developer on Flightsim.to called Bindook that has a really nice list of WA regional Airports. They are not Orbx quality but certainly 100 times better than the awful default airports in MSFS in this part of the world! Flightsim.to » Profile of Bindook. Hopefully Orbx will give us some more professional aerodromes in WA soon as this has the effect of getting freeware developers to add in the surrounding smaller aerodromes. Orbx spurred on the freeware ecosystem back in P3d so I hope they will do it again as it all works for everyone then!

I miss Jandakot too, I used to fly between Broome and Jandakot in P3d.