Airlifter
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29 minutes ago, shinkicker444 said:
Yes, and it is sold by Orbx. If they want to charge nearly the same amount that Sydney does then it better be near the same quality as Sydney is. They don't have the excuse that Flytampa gets a cut of the funds either. Furthermore, why is it acceptable that Orbx in house developers being held to a lesser standard than the third party ones? All this tells me is that I can trust FlyTampa or Impulse or Drzewiecki to make the good stuff, and to avoid the in house products (unless they get a satisfactory review).
Only thing I state is that you have to be carefull comparing airports from different developers. Different priorities lead to different choices and can affect performance. Desides that; not sure about MSFS, but I know from FSX/P3D that certain areas have a much higher fps impact compared to others without clear reason. For example; de NYC area has been known for all versions of FSX/P3D and before (even FS2004 and FS2002) to be a FPS eater.
May also be the case between Sydney and Brisbane. They're far enough from each other not to affect each other.
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19 hours ago, shinkicker444 said:
I pretty much agree with everything you've said. I posted my thoughts here about the whole thing along with some others. But YBBN really does feel like quite the step back in comparison to other airports such as Sydney. I've seen it suggested that the reason for YBBN being lower quality is to aid in increasing performance due to the airport itself and the city pack too being close. But I find this reasoning to be somewhat disingenuous. Sydney is a far higher quality airport and its city pack is also much closer to the airport in addition to being also fairly high quality and performance is little different to other major airports crafted by Asobo, like LAX or JFK. This sim is built around pushing hardware and quality of visuals and the flight experience, and in that experience YBBN falls completely flat with what I have come to expect from Orbx.
For those stating they got it for $10 due to the sale, that is irrelevant, its base price is $22, Sydney by comparison is $25. I would expect Brisbane to be the same quality as Sydney. But it is not by a long shot, as @Takadiurgasaid it seems like it is a port. To me it feels like it was done purely as a cost saving measure while still putting something out there because it won't be as popular as the more well known airports, even though it is a major Australian airport. Brisbane is not Gatwick, its not Narita, its not Sydney so a cheaper method was employed to save cost. That's what it feels and looks like even if it makes no sense and it is incredibly upsetting.
I wanted and was expecting something like Sydney with the quality textures and modelling taking into account all the tech the sim has to offer, and this... just isn't that. The description on the store feels like false advertising. What PBR? I'm not seeing that in the panelling on the airport buildings? All I saw was blurry flat textures. The ground is just as bad if not worse. Effectively rebuilt the airport from scratch, it certainly doesn't feel that way. Hell, it should be brand new. Custom Jetways... that don't work properly.
Comparing Brisbane to Sydney and Adelaide and it's night and day the difference and it really shouldn't be. I really hope there are some fixes and attention coming to it to bring it up to standard of what is expected in an MSFS airport.Just as a small comment; you do realize YSSY is made by FlyTampa and not by Orbx? So eventhough one can say something about both YSSY and YBBN, it's not fair to fully compare them because they're from different developers.
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Looks very good and given the friendly price, I'll probably buy it (I'm an Orbx-addict
), but to be honest; if these comparisonshots show anything, it's how good the default mesh already is.
The difference is mainly a nuance and I wonder if you really notice it during flight.-
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Totally awesome! Have it in P3D and had some very nice flights to and from it. Though not realistic, it's a nice challenge to land a 737BBJ there
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The scenery looks great!
Just as a remark; the Cubana Antonov 12 on the West side of RWY 09 is no longer there. It has become an artificial reef.
https://www.wlrn.org/news/2021-02-11/cuban-plane-hijacked-to-key-west-in-2003-may-make-final-journey-as-an-artificial-reef -
1 minute ago, chumley said:
....... to start increasing the download connection charges to a find a a user pays sweet spot that doesn't drive away their base........
You're implying we'll already have to pay to download the data. Where did you pick up that? Haven't read it anywhere. Most certainly not the MSFS website.
I don't expect MS to start charging for downloading the Bing / Azure data. But I do wonder how their business case is buildup justifying all the server and dataconnection costs involved. On the other hand; MS is a HUGE company and I think it could very well be that the overall impact on their servers from MSFS is extremely small compared to the whole of all the stuff running of those servers.
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1 hour ago, Nick Cooper said:
Hello,
I guess that your glass is half empty.
On the contrary Nick. However, working in a large (30.000+ employees) company myself in a management position, I more or less know how the economics of a large company work. It's all about the business case. Return on investment and the time it takes for that return on investment. It determines for a (big) company where to put their resources on.
In the end, that was what shut ACES down. It simply was not profitable enough compared to other opportunities Microsoft could invest their money and resources in. Microsoft is not building this new simulator as a charity towards us, the simming community. They currently see a solid business case for it and as long as they continu to see that, we're safe and Asobo will be given the time and resources to continue development.
I am positive (glass is half full) for the future, but I will not be naive.
Side note; I did preorder MSFS and will purchase the Orbx addons that have been announced in this topic. I wouldn't do that if my glass was half empty
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3 hours ago, Rob Abernathy said:
I love how the MSFS team will be working for years on updating, improving this sim. That and the 3rd party Devs will bring in a new era of simulation over time. Really looking forward to it.
Agree.... very exciting.... although way way waaaay back in my (46 year old - already simming for 32 years) head I have this little warning reminding me of how sudden, unexpected and abrupt Microsoft pulled the plug on the ACES team shattering all promises and expectations on future improvements of FSX.....
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I know this is XP, but can I consider this to be any kind of representative of what I can expect for a future release for P3D?
), but to be honest; if these comparisonshots show anything, it's how good the default mesh already is.
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Where is Orbx ? What will be the next release ?
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Dominique is right. It's remarkably quiet on the Orbx-front. Apart from some addons where Orbx is merely the producer, not much has been shown lately.
The roadmap contains a lot of nice places, but it remains to be seen if we seen them any time soon. I recall previous roadmaps also not being accurate and in some cases I believe planned addons simply "vanished" from the planning.