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I just downloaded True Earth Florida while on sale. It looks a lot better than default so far. I did my first inspection out of KDAB, Daytona Beach. Reason was because right next to DAB is a rather famous landmark, a palace of speed I have been to. Daytona Internation Speedway. It is there although the scenery could have been a bit more deeply detailed instead of a curved block building for the stands. It looks from screening that more was put into Disney World area but at least the footprint is correct. All in all good for FSX/P3D architecture.

I love the Orbx packages so far. The scenery especially here in my region, the Susquehanna Valley in Pennsylvania USA is very recognizable to one from here. Even the street grids and footprints of the numerous small towns among these mountains and ridges is a close approximation over default. One thing could be better though. The tree species dispersion. I have noticed that conifers are grouped together in distinct stands and deciduous trees are grouped in distinct stands. That isn't natural here in the Appalachian forest country. Both types are intermixed a lot more thoroughly. Is it possible to make it so in autogen at some point? Or, would Terra Flora mix that up better? Thanks.

I asked this question in a different page. 10 views, no answers. I hope maybe to get an answer in this page because I have a request and can submit coordinates, elevation and photos for a local GA field that is actually well know in US Northeast. Are new airports still being done and added to the freeware package? They all look good, the ones I visited here in Pennsylvania. Thanks

I hope so to with all their stuff Right now, I would just be very happy to figure out the right Garmin Trainer/atioglxx.dll/Kernal32.dll combo to keep RXP GTN from crashing my new 4.5. No trouble from nvidia systems. I'm considering a change.

Just go to the freeware section of Lorby's website and download Lorby addon organizer and the instruction PDF. You would have to create a standard folder to install your scenery into which would have two subfolders, Scenery, and Texture. In the Lorby Addon Organizer under the scenery function you would need to navigate to that scenery folder, and select all subfolders. Click add in Lorby and then at the bottom click save. Lorby will automatically convert it to an XML entry and it should show up in P3D 4/5. But do read the PDF also. I just gave you a light description.

I currently have my Orbx products installed directly into my P3Dv4 directory on my 2TB Drive D. However, my FSX-SE is on my 240gb drive C and I would like to Orbx FSX-SE but have limited space. Is there anyway I could have Orbx installed on Drive D and configure FSX on Drive C to use them? Thanks

Can't you just unzip to a file and use Lorby to convert to XML? Works with most FSX Sceneries

I would but have unresolvable difficulties with Live. Also, flight modeling and procedure are important to me and between P3D and Xplane there is plenty of both. MSFS will likely not recieve any academic or training endorsement in the States by virtue of being marketed as entertainment.

Strangely enough, the actual footprints and street grids of the towns locally here are very close to correct under Open LC NA. And my local area is rather rural with a constellation of small towns from a few hundred to two-thousand inhabitants. The somewhat larger towns are even more accurate in terms of footprint and street grid. Of course, individual buildings are not quite there but that isn't real noticeable from altitude. I know in larger places like NYC, Chicago, LA, Atlanta, etc. there are more accurate depictions of real buildings. But Sat data should see where a bridge is or not.

Correct you are. Quite a few Essex's surviving. They were a very useful design. Shame, something that size but updated would be very effective with F35c's

So, that does not resemble the town I know all my life. I was just wondering if there is a bridge over the Susquehanna river at that location. If one takes off from KCXY near Harrisburg, PA and follows the river north about 25 nautical miles one would be over the location in question. I gave the coordinates off the Google maps. I wonder if there is a coordinate variance between the software and real world. Thanks

The location in question of the non- existant bridge is 40⁰32⁰30⁰ N 76⁰57⁰26⁰ W It is across the Susquehanna River at a little town called Millersburg, PA. There has never been a bridge there at all. There is a seasonal Ferry which is the last wooden stern wheel ferry in the US. That would make nice marine traffic, ain't? Anyway MS default and UTX, both US Based have gotten that bridge in the scenery for years but there is no bridge nor ever has been IRL. Can you see if it's there under Vector? If not I will switch seeing as it's more accurate. Thanks

The location in question of the non- existant bridge is 40⁰32⁰30⁰ N 76⁰57⁰26⁰ W It is across the Susquehanna River at a little town called Millersburg, PA. There has never been a bridge there at all. There is a seasonal Ferry which is the last wooden stern wheel ferry in the US. That would make nice marine traffic, ain't? Anyway MS default and UTX, both US Based have gotten that bridge in the scenery for years but there is no bridge nor ever has been IRL. Can you see if it's there under Vector? If not I will switch seeing as it's more accurate. Thanks

I use UTX for mesh and vector data (sorry). However, I could switch if vector corrects a lot of the default errors.

I noticed in my local area there is still a bridge that doesn't exist which is long a carryover from old FS9 scenery base. If I give coordinates and local would it be possible to edit this bridge out in future OpenLC NA update? Thanks

It truly is outstanding looking scenery. It doesn't work at all in Version 5xxx? It would be a nice touch if a modernized Essex hull with big white number 10 on the stack could be put in. Her sister ship, the Intrepid is a museum in New York City.

I don't mean to nitpick but that is the wrong Yorktown in Charleston Patriot's Point scenery. That is Yorktown CV-5, the one lost at Midway. The ship that should be there is her replacement, Yorktown CV-10 which had had numerous upgrades over the years including an angled flight deck and a rebuilt island. Just saying.

I will try next time I fire up the sim. Using Android now. Could you please describe how to screen shot and post to the forum. New to P3d and an aging Boomer also. Thanks.

I use Prepar3d Version 4.5 I have UTX with LC features disabled for vector and terrain Global Earth North America LC Buildings Global Airports. I noticed water texture anomalies where they appear where they shouldn't appear. Most noticeable under dawn or dusk lighting. What settings could help that? Ryzen 5 3600 32 gb Radeon 580 8 gb Win 10 Thanks

Thanks for the reply. I am at work on phone now. I will try to Post it when I get home. US Eastern. Thanks

So, I recently installed a pack of Orbx products to my P3d 4.5 during the May sale. Good deal BTW. My P3d is recent. So for a couple of weeks I am going through setting up, learning, and testing. I wanted some airport sceneries I liked from FSX-SE and I tried installing one the FSX way. It didn't go well and I tried Lorby but was plagued by CTDs in 10 minutes or less. So, I decided to start from scratch and I uninstalled and reinstalled P3d 4. I didn't uninstall Orbx files first though. I manually deleted them. I reinstalled P3d. I downloaded successfully my Orbx stuff. Then I went to load a weather meters from FSRealWX trial. It couldn't rout to the sim. So, I manually reordered my P3d directory. It is showing that my Orbx stuff is in but it doesn't look like it is. So, I went to verify files tonight and got Forbidden messege. I thought, maybe I can reinstall but when I clicked uninstall I got Forbidden. Central won't let me do anything. I do run as administrator. How can I correct this. System Ryzen 5 3600 32 gig DDR4 3000 MHZ Radeon RX580 8 Gig 240 gig SSD C 2TB HDD D P3d on drive D All Orbx direct in sim directory. Thanks in advance

The flight modeling still needs work which likely will be improved. MS owns what rights? They don't own the satellites or data. LM owns the coding for P3d. They can do with it what they will. Is it possible to own rights to a certain sort of coding, say coding to transform satellite 3d data and imagery into flight simulator scenery? Landsat data and imagery are totally public domain. NASA/US Gov. owns that infrastructure. Granted, live streaming the data would take a lot of bandwidth and servers which MS does have but neither LM nor Laminar posses. LM has no need of so much, it is a defense contractor basically and their computational systems support that. Laminar is a software publisher only. But in place of live stream that Sat data could be turned into a packaged scenery by global region and shipped with the sim and updated every 6 months or a year. From what I understand only the sat data is live streamed by MS and the sim generates it as you fly. I don't think anyone simming over Indianapolis on May 31st for example saw any cars on the speedway. What they do should be able to be canned and ship eith the sim.

One thing MSFS will never have. It will not recieve professional, academic, or regulatory training endorsement as long as it is marketed as entertainment. LM and Laminar have both carved out that corner.

Even if from US Goverment networks. True Earth is the flat kind isn't it? The MSFS vids I've seen present 3d buildings, trees, etc. Remember. MS/Asobo doesn't own the satallites they use. Landsat and others. Public domain they stream.

It would seem that Microsoft/Asobo has made a quantum leap in terms of scenery depiction. Even though the new platform is still beta like, and not realistic procedurally, many simmers are totally captivated by being able to spot their own houses. I believe it is possible for other 64 bit sim publishers to match MSFS scenic detail though and in a similar manner to what Asobo/MS does. How difficult would it be to create scenery from 3d satellite data for other 64 bit platforms. There is a lot of free data out there courtesy of NASA, LandSat, and other sources that could be used. I understand that MSFS creates scenery based on bing data and streams it as you fly. I know MS has the infrastructure to stream but my idea is to do the same sort of scenery in snapshots and break it up into regions. Xplane or P3d could be set to load it only as far as the horizon it would be very much like MSFS. The scenery could be broken up in regions and updated either annually or biannually. In fact it could be distributed subscription style. There are those of us who won't use MSFS fir various reasons but our older platforms will end up atrophied without developer support. A scenery system as I described is much needed to keep P3d and Xplane relevant. I believe it could be a great nitch for Orbx. Any developer comments? Thank You.