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@Sentry11 I'd appreciate if you could do it. I prefer choppers and I love to fly along LA coastline and this little mess...

@Sentry11 many thanks for your help! @Jon Clarke I've done this verification twice. Moreover when I run SoCal on 2nd PC I see the same(the files are also verified by Orbx application). Both PCs tried OpenGL or Vulkan rendering engine - the same, World objects set to max: please check the attached screenshot. A lot of objects around arrears but this mesh failure stays the same, If this is an installation error why this error appears on independent PCs with independent installations?

Hi Jon, Appreciate your advise about XO, I will consider this making a back-up of scenery_pack.ini As for this file I used your prepared .ini, many thanks for it! But the picture looks the same way, here is where this artefact appear. It's about 2NM to South from KLAX I don't know what to do more. BR George

Hi Jon, I'm not sure I correct explain my issue, 1. 1st(main) part of my problem is not correct mesh appearing in SoCal. With your help I see that this was caused by wrong layering of scenery in scenery_pack.ini file. And I would be more than appreciated if you could help me to arrange these lines, or point where is(are) the problem area(s) in layering. I can keep the copy of this file(stored in save place) as reference of what I can use in /Custom scenery/ folder being sure that it's 100% right. And I kindly please your assistance here. 2. The second one is to realize what app can change this file to forbid this activity. You're telling me that it's xOrganizer, but this app is not in RAM visible in Task Manager. And I think it's not running until I press .exe. and after I quit it. It's even not be able to be installed - all I can so is just copy folder and run .exe. I can completely delete this folder and scenery_pack.ini is still being changed. That's why I ask how this app can change something in this .ini file? Thanks for your help! BR George

Ok Jon, I'll check is it the last version or not. But you're saying that xOrganizer is responsible for DD addons? How? Please note that not only "DD lines" are mixed up after start and quit XP every time, BR George

Yes I use v2.4 which I believe the latest one, >>The scenery_packs.ini you have attached is completely wrongly layered.. That's the problem Jon, I can not manage it in right way. Each time(after my correction) this file has been changed when I quit XP. Please check how can I use xOrganizer for correct layering? BR George

Hi, 1. I've upgraded my PC and and then installed my products via Orbx Central app. All was fine but I see some coastal mesh conflict(photos). Tried to "Verify files" in Orbx - same thing. It was not appearing in my old PC configuration. And I believe this conflict is not unique in SoCal in my current config. Friends who also own SoCal confirmed me that this is not normal. 2. Another strange thing I faced here is crossing this topic scenery_packs keeps being messed up which is still active, The file sceney_pack.ini is changed every time I run XP (attached version is after I quit XP). And changes is not alphabetical. For example: SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DD Washington XP Layer1 SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DD Washington XP Layer2 Are mixed up sometimes(Layer 2 is much higher than Layer 1) and I'm not sure they accept this order. Most funny thing is that checking the box "Enable Automatic Layering" in Configuration of Orbx app it seems doesn't have any action: even if this box is unchecked I see changed lines order in sceney_pack.ini and scenery_pack.ini-Orbx-backup addition file. How can I completely forbid these changes to Orbx app? BR George Log.txt scenery_packs.ini

Hello Tony, Many thanks for update. I'm really glad that this work is still alive! Hope on your final success, BR George

Hello @Tony Wroblewskiand Orbx team! I'm anticipated with future updates with NoCal: Alcatraz and possible SF bridges with traffic, I'm sure you have got a lot or work besides this but just a little hint about forecastable changes that might be happen? I was extremely excited for me to see these photos of your current work below. Please check when do you estimate this update to happen? Many thanks and good luck yo all of you! BR George

@Sentry11 I appreciate your help with checking! Just thought it's kinda weird when I saw these trees. I supposed my KSEA scenery can not be loaded correctly) BR George

@Jon Clarke Many thanks for your help. But when I use your modified file the pictures stays the same. @Sentry11 yes! It's RWY 34R. Is it normal to have the tree so close to runway? BR George

Hello, Just noted the trees at the border of runaway and I don't think it's normal. Could you please help me? scenery_packs.ini file is attached, Thanks, BR George scenery_packs.ini

@Sentry11 Many thanks for your great help, I appreciate it! Now it works properly. Actually I leave this box unchecked as some (new) sceneries require this for the correct work. BR George

@Sentry11 Sure! All files are here, BR George scenery_packs.ini Log.txt

Hello! @Ed Correia @Tony Wroblewski Many thanks for your detailed info and updates. New Alcatraz looks just amazing and I look forward to see it it in new NoCal, Great job is in progress, just keep going to make a brilliant in SF Bay! As for bridges @Ed Correiathe current ones have the completely new model: yes but could you please explain me we they still couldn't have a traffic? The limitations of distance Tony W. said about was not exceeded (each less than 10 km), so the plugin could handle that. Besides traffic on both bridges could differ from other areas on the ground approaching to the bridge (I guess MisterX plugin have this plugin). In any case for the people approaching these bridges by helicopter (or plane with low attitude) is important to see the life on there I think, BR George

@Sentry11 Thanks a lot for your help! It seems my KLAX scenery version was outdated. So I've downloaded the new one and left only "KLAX - Los Angeles International" without Orthophotos folder and now I see your picture. Good that tower and theme bldngs appeared, but ... with "groove" going to the ocean(( BR George

@Sentry11 Mister X libary 2.0b is already installed in my XP. >>Do not install the Mister X KLAX Ortho folder Please check what do you mean under "ortho folder"? If subfolder "Earth nav data" of "KLAX - Los Angeles International" folder, then I removed it, but tower and theme buildings are still missing, BR George

@Sentry11 yes exactly! How can I have the same picture? BR George

@Sentry11 yes you're right! I also use third party KLAX from MisterX. And when i disable it terrain is shown correctly. But note that I add third party addon to this map because Orbx SoCal HD doesn't (currently - I hope) provide detailed buildings of KLAX f.e. tower and Theme blds. I see somewhere in this forum that support team advised to use third party addons(both free- and payware) to the ones asking for these building to have, Dear Orbx team. Do you have any planes to improve SoCal by adding the important buildings to KLAX? They are main sights (and signs) for VFR approaching the airport. BR George

Hi Jon, With the new scenery_packs.ini the picture stays the same as before. I've previously used xOrganizer v 1.3 for arrangement all files incl. Orbx ones and now I've downloaded the last one 2.4. I kindly please you to point me where should I check for conflicts here. I don't see any errors popping here, Thanks, BR George

Hello Jon, Many thanks for your help! I'll try this and report you the result if it works, BR George

Hello, Just flew around KLAX and saw some "groove" on the coastline surface. Verifying SoCal module doesn't help. Here is my scenery_pack.ini file for reference, Please suggest me how to fix it BR George scenery_packs.ini

@Tony Wroblewski I appreciate this work and look forward to your success, And I would like to get back to GG. Here is: https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/29166-ksfo-san-francisco-international-airport-and-city/ (freeware) https://store.x-plane.org/San-Francisco-XP_p_903.html (payware) I understand that you can't discuss the 3rd party addons and its structures but however maybe you know how could they design both bridges with traffic? GG is 2.7 km, and Okland brigde is 2.8+3.1 km both areas are inside 10km radius. So there are 2 additional plugins for two bridges required, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong, BR George

@Badl4ndz and @Sentry11 many thanks for your notes! @Badl4ndz >>I can live without traffic on bridges but I do feel Alcatraz needs some attention. The ground textures especially... I totally agree with you! Please add here what you want to improve in Alcatraz area? @Sentry11: I created this rendition of Alcatraz Island awhile ago for personal use. It may not be an accurate depiction of the island but I found it a lot better on the eyes than what is now offered. Please also explain what would you like to see here, Thanks, BR George

@Jon Clarke @Tony Wroblewski many thanks for your help and comments! So I'm curious why the other scenaries (free- and payware) of SF allows the bridge traffic shown correctly? Do they use an another mechanism without the additional plugin? MisterX: Yes I refer to his KSFO scenery as example, I like SF and I love to fly over this city and other scenical areas around by helis which I'm huge fan of. I'm sure there will gonna be other simmers also asking for this changes in further NoCal updates, BR George